--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> At one time I would have believed this but I have serious doubts at 
> this point. It would certainly be to the advantage of a guru (or all 
> gurus) to propagate this belief: this way you can always be beholden 
> to the guru. 

Such a misunderstanding of guru, you have.
something worthy of eternal gratitude, useless you think.
Results of following a wolf in sheep's clothing, it is.
Losing faith? Do not.









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>  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Without the shakti of the guru, a mantra, while having
> > some effects, will not produce them same effect as a
> > mantra that has been "charged" with shakti. MMY even
> > mentioned this once when asked if people who read one
> > of the TM mantras from a newspaper and start to
> > meditate with it would experience any benefits. He
> > said they would, but it would be very slow. 
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