Substantive correction: Re:"Now Sessions is refusing public testimony." Rated: "False"—I was referencing an old article.
Doug, I hear you. You don't want any discussion of national politics on this forum. The exchanges were cordial however, imho. There was no reactive "triggering" happening. Remember this? "The personal is political." The phrase was popularized by the publication of a 1969 essay by feminist Carol Hanisch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Hanisch under the title "The Personal is Political" in 1970 Carol Hanisch, a member of New York Radical Women https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Radical_Women and a prominent figure in the Women's Liberation Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Liberation_Movement, drafted an article defending the political importance of consciousness-raising groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness-raising_groups in February 1969 in Gainesville, Florida. Seems like politics (personal, local, and national) is tied to existence and inextricably to spirituality. Hmmmm.......do you agree? As such, perhaps "politics is spiritual" and thus meets your criteria. In the meantime, I'll pursue life in other locations. Have a good day. Em. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Again, how do you know that, as of last week there wasn't any evidence that "anyone knew of." Comey apparently knew of a 3rd meeting Sessions had with the Russians that he lied about, for example. Now Sessions is refusing public testimony. Do you think that his private testimony will be leaked? Do you think Comey's will be? You have absolutely no idea what those involved in ongoing investigations know. Maybe Robert Mueller's findings will give evidence; did you think of that, yet? How do you know that "every other thing leaks?" You don't have any idea what the whole of anything is! The soap opera you follow is very poorly scripted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Funny how every other thing *leaks*. Who has the evidence, which will eventually be released to the public? As of last week, there wasn't any evidence .... that anyone knew of. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dismantling of Trump Again, the investigations are not complete and as such the evidence has not been released to the public. Here are some possibilities in the event that "collusion" is proven. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/may/31/gregg-jarrett/fox-news-hosts-wrong-no-law-forbids-russia-trump-c/ http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/may/31/gregg-jarrett/fox-news-hosts-wrong-no-law-forbids-russia-trump-c/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : So tell us what they have uncovered. What laws were broken and what is the evidence that involves Trump or his campaign? From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dismantling of Trump Again, not possible that you would know ahead of the conclusion of the investigation(s) in progress. (The operative phrase here is *in progress.*) Are you really trying to tell me that you are basing your conclusions on what the couple of people that have provided public testimony have said so far? Seriously? You are livin' in a dreamworld..... These investigations, however, can be broken down into three categories: First, the intertwined Justice Department investigation, now led by a special counsel, into the ties between the Trump campaign and Russia and, reportedly, the possible cover-up. Second, the investigations led by the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, which are broadly looking at Russian intervention in the 2016 election. Third, the Senate Judiciary Committee and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee have been looking into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s conduct specifically — and have recently expanded their inquiry to the circumstances surrounding former FBI Director James Comey’s firing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : When I say *everyone* , I'm referring to the heads of the various agencies that have been leading the investigations and are in a position to know, that have testified. Clapper , Comey and a few others last week all said there is no evidence of Collusion or Obstruction by Trump and that he was *not* a target of their investigations.. Now of course CNN et al will find some anonymous source or sources that can't be questioned to say otherwise. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dismantling of Trump Again, not the case. "Everyone that has been involved" has not said any such thing. You do not know who all has been involved, because the investigations have not concluded. Have we heard from Bob Mueller yet, for example? Have we heard from the different congressional investigations that are *ongoing*? It seems that your information sources are divorced from reality and reflecting a one-sided illusion that you have bought into and are parroting here. I did not say at any time that I was certain there is a crime or that there isn't a crime that has been committed. What I said was that "more will be revealed" and that we do not know what the pattern of evidence will show, yet. I am not a lawyer and neither are you. Yes, we will see...... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : I do know that everyone that has been involved has said there is no evidence of tampering or collusion. If you are so certain that there was a crime, what was the crime and what is the evidence? We've all been waiting to see or hear. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dismantling of Trump Again, you are coming to summary conclusions before the investigations have completed. You have no idea what the pattern of evidence will show in the end or what all the evidence is. You are just caught up in the grind of watching the daily "soap opera." ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Comey never said Trump committed *obstruction of justice*. There is no evidence of obstruction, or collusion with the Russians as stated by Clapper, Comey and others that were interrogated by congress just last week. Zero, Zip, Nada! When Trump told Comey that he *hoped* he would let Flynn off or go, Comey took it as an instruction. That is his personal view which is purely subjective. The English language dictates that is a hope for an outcome. Not illegal or a dictate. If John is referring to Al Green as the congressman righting up articles of impeachment, the man is a fool like Maxine Waters and Sheila Jackson Lee. He doesn't even know what the charges would be.I would be surprised if the majority of his constituents graduated high school. From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Dismantling of Trump John, are you saying that in the public testimony "Comey just said that Trump committed obstruction of justice and a federal crime.?" You must not be talking literally. I'm pretty gosh darn positive he didn't say either such thing. However, I feel your pain. Here's a good article on impeachment. Impeachment does not mean removal. The likelihood that Trump will be removed through the impeachment process is slim to none, imho. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/12/15615066/impeachment-trump-process-history ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : Emily, Comey has stated so in the article shown. I'm sure he knows how to present his evidence to support his point. Also, he has an ax to grind since he was fired by Trump. For the senators in the committee, it will be hard for them ignore the details of his testimony. All of these things are recorded and filmed which is available to all investigative reporters and all politicians. There's already a Democratic congressman who has crafted the steps needed to impeach Trump. It's only a matter of time when the snowball effect will take over the political climate in DC. And, it looks grim for Trump. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : jr, Comey didn't say either of those things, I don't believe. We are a long ways from impeachment. There is no final conclusion yet on whether obstruction or collusion occurred. Trump has most definitely not been "virtually cleared of any wrong doing." Multiple investigations are still ongoing, yes? More will be revealed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <jr_esq@...> wrote : MD, Comey just said that Trump committed obstruction of justice and a federal crime which are punishable by impeachment. His testimony as an ex-FBI chief cannot be brushed aside easily by the Senators in the committee. This could become another Watergate for those who are looking for significance and historical comparison. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : John I'm sure you couldn't see how he was elected either. Trump has been virtually cleared of any wrong doing. He was never under investigation and there is no evidence of any collusion with the *Russians* and no evidence of obstruction of justice. I know this has got to be pissing the media and democrats off but these are the facts. From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 12:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Dismantling of Trump Comey's testimony today has caused a flurry of questions against Trump's personal and management style. He appears to be playing the "ratings" game to keep his job as president. I don't see any positive angle for Trump to save his job/gig at the White House. https://www.yahoo.com/news/live-coverage-james-comey-senate-testimony-153308399.html