Yes, ‘Saha Nav’ translated the way the movement does gets used Both ways, over the meditator in suppressing criticism and protecting leaders. Used on and within the movement community and by the organization. Effectively these phrases work a cultural suppression of conscience in the community. Meditators won’t call out as they shy from being perceived or seen as ‘negative’ if facing or calling out bad behavior in the meditating community and people in leadership get away with poor moral behavior and/or bad performance. In the communal culture it promotes the ‘spiritual bypass’ both in meditators and our leadership. This is markable to find within conversations around the community as the # MeToo/Fairfield/TM. srijau@ writes: I don't wish to be naive but this could be taken the opposite of how you are.- don't denounce any fellow meditator or sidha rather than don't denounce those in power.
In suppression of critical thinking.. While the MUM academic institution here as policy is trying to cultivate ‘critical thinking’ as a skill set in students it seems some otherwise are trying to suppress and castigate it putting up firewalls to input and critical thinking in process. A new poster has recently appeared more prominent on the Dome bulletin boards evidently urging the suppression of critical thinking as policy. Is suppression of ‘critical thinking’ working its way now in to the guidelines for membership in the meditation group? Added to the Saha Nav hymn already against negativity and denouement that is plainly posted in the Dome asana area it can seem our clearer thinkers about how things are going might really might come be in perceived inquisitional trouble with this new policy movement against critical thinking. Posted in the Dome, "3-18-18": “We are born only to bless, not to punish. This you should never forget. We should always see good things in others- very important. We are not in a position to criticize anyone. The existence of enemies means for us that our friendliness has not been sufficient enough.” -Maharishi The Saha Nav as TM translates it: Let us be together Let us eat togther Let us be vital together. Let us be radiating the truth, radiating the light of life. Never shall we denounce anyone, never entertain negativity. paraphrase as the more 'actual' translation: > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; > may It nourish us both together; > May we work conjointly with great energy, > May our study be vigorous and effective; > May we not mutually dispute > or may we not hate any. > I kind of suspected you'd come up with the more correct translation of that hymn. Thanks Cardm, : cardemaister no_reply wrote: > saha nau avatu . > > > > > > saha nau bhunaktu . > > > > > > saha viiryaM karavaavahai . > > > > > > tejasvi nau; > > > > > > adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's pada-paaTha (word-reading), so to speak. > > > > > The saMhitaa-paaTha goes like this: > > > > > > > > > > saha naav avatu . saha nau bhunaktu . saha viiryaM karavaavahai . > > > > > tejasvi naav adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai . > > > > > > > > > > That is, before a *vowel*, 'nau' changes to 'naav', > > > > > without any effect on the *semantic* level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to be the most accurate translation I could > > > > find quickly: > > > > > > > > Om ! May He protect us both together; may He nourish us both together; > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; > > > > May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate any). > > > > .. > > > > > "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong all this time! > > > > > > Well then, no wonder. > > You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity > I should think it would make a nice unified code of conduct as an inclusive > guideline for posting on FairfieldLife..or membership in the Dome. > Particularly for posting negativity here on FFL. You know, posting on FFL is > a privilege, not a right. 'We' should do more to protect that privilege. This > is a simple guideline that is very easily enforced. Could just revoke > someone's FFL or Dome membership when they violate it. For being negative > like that. > > Have it on the homepage as part of the forum description so it comes up every > time. It's a uniform code of justice to attend to that we could all use and > our moderators and the course office could enforce. We'd all be better off > and the list and Domes a safer place to be. > > Sincerely, > -Buck > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Buck" <wrote: > > > > > > I kind of suspected you'd come up with the more correct translation of that > > hymn. Thanks Cardm, > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; > > may It nourish us both together; > > May we work conjointly with great energy, > > May our study be vigorous and effective; > > May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate any). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cardemaister no_reply wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > saha nau avatu . > > > > > > saha nau bhunaktu . > > > > > > saha viiryaM karavaavahai . > > > > > > tejasvi nau; > > > > > > adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's pada-paaTha (word-reading), so to speak. > > > > > The saMhitaa-paaTha goes like this: > > > > > > > > > > saha naav avatu . saha nau bhunaktu . saha viiryaM karavaavahai . > > > > > tejasvi naav adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai . > > > > > > > > > > That is, before a *vowel*, 'nau' changes to 'naav', > > > > > without any effect on the *semantic* level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This seems to be the most accurate translation I could > > > > find quickly: > > > > > > > > Om ! May He protect us both together; may He nourish us both together; > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; > > > > May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate any). > > > > > > > Oh, so that's the correct translation. For us meditators here, it reads really well substituting in `Unified Field. It's beautiful even if it is not the way Maharishi and Bevan used it to empower themselves. > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together; > > > may It nourish us both together; > > > May we work conjointly with great energy, > > > May our study be vigorous and effective; > > > May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate any). > > > > > > > > > > > > > May He protect (avatu) us both (nau [~now] accusative *dual*) together > > > > (saha); > > > > may He nourish (bhunaktu) us both (nau) together (saha); > > > > May we work (karavaavahai) conjointly (saha) > > > > with great energy (viiryam), > > > > May our study be (adhiitam [study] astu [may (it) be]) > > > > vigorous-and-effective (tejasvi); > > > > May we not (maa: 'we' in the verb ->) mutually-dispute (vidviSaavahai) > > > > (or may we not hate any: vidviSaavahai). > > > > > > > On 04/27/2013 02:30 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > So this means that you want everyone who posts on FFL to be pro and > > > > rah rah TM and be in the Domes? - Why not simply create your own yahoo > > > > group with yourself as the head guru and emperor and do it however you > > > > want? then you could boot anyone out that didn't suit you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear MJ and Bhairitu; really I am trying to accommodate you in > > council here. I see that of the two versions of the Saha Nav > > Hymn that the TM version is more severe. Of course the TM version > > is the one that has guided the TM movement for so long and see > > where it has gotten the TM community. The TM one seems more > > certain and inflexible than the actual translation of the hymn. > > Hence I propose the actual Saha Nav translation. For FFL I felt > > that the more 'correct' translation (Cardem's) could be more accommodating > > to our > > needs here than the strict TM one and that this more proper or > > actual translation could better allow for a truth and > > reconciliation in our conversation here with mutual respect. > > #
