--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 22, 2005, at 11:42 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <snip> > > > >> For #4, clearly M. gives an intro path and then talks on big "E" > >> but never gives the full path, esp. regarding the finer techniques > >> for realization, which are simply missing. > >> > > > > Unless the techniques he teaches are in themselves a > > full path, of course. > > Exactly my point. When seen in full perspective, the complete path > is truncated in this tradition.
You mean, when seen in the perspective of a *different* path. From the perspective of the TM path, other paths are truncated. > In the 60's, when naivete was still relatively high on "things > eastern" it could pass. But as western understanding has increased > and numerous teachers with TM-type meditation AND the continuing > path in Patanjali and advaita, etc. many could see what was > missing. That's not to say TM is "invalid" or an improper in some > way, it's not. It just does not include the entire path to the > states of consciousness claimed. People tend to be impressed by a path that involves lots of *stuff* to do and complicated levels of achievement and fancy techniques, and equate this with "completeness." MMY fell into this trap to some extent, but he's resisted letting his path get too complicated in terms of meditative techniques; most of the adjuncts he's added are on the practical level (Stapathya-Veda, Ayur-Veda, Ghandarva-Veda, etc.) "Completeness" does not necessarily involve lots and lots of *stuff*, as opposed to a small set of powerful basics that ultimately provide it all. > Once this trend was understood by the public then TM numbers began > to drop. I very seriously doubt this "trend" has been responsible for most of the drop in TM numbers. The vast majority of the potential market for TM is oblivious to it. However the marketing apparatus is still quite a potent draw. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Ever feel sad or cry for no reason at all? Depression. Narrated by Kate Hudson. http://us.click.yahoo.com/YbEMxA/ubOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
