--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
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> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just realized that this whole discussion of a
> > > > > "false" guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all
> > > > > these criteria? Are these to be used to select a guru?
> > > > > No, not as they are written. They are simply an
> > > > > attempt by a mind to position itself in relationship
> > > > > to a narrative it likes regarding gurus.
> > > > 
> > > > Bingo.  Well put.
> > > > 
> > > > There are, however, similar lists compiled by those
> > > > who study spiritual movements/cults that are more or
> > > > less empirically based, and they may actually have
> > > > some value (although even these can be biased).
> > > 
> > > CAn you provide / post so we can compare? Its not a challenge, 
but
> > > to identify "better" criteria than already listed.
> > 
> > I'm sure you're just as capable of I am of finding such
> > lists on the Web.  Google is your friend.
> 
> Ok. Its seems odd to me to suggest there are better alternatives and
> yet not be able to cite specifically what you mean.

No, it's not odd at all, of course.  I've read such
lists on the Web but didn't memorize the URLs or
names of the organizations/individuals who put them
up.





> But I will search
> and try to find better criteria.
> 
> Does that go for your referenced list of more "Reasonable Objective"
> criteria? That I should just google them? Would I find that under
> "Judy's mind more reasonable objective guru criteria"? It came up 
blank.
> 
> I did find some for "reasonable objective guru criteria"
> 
> http://www.damtsig.org/articles/berzin.html
> 
> http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ratings.htm
> 
> 
> 
> Or was your citing such a list simply a more of a idealized list, 
not
> something that tangibly exits -- but something that SHOULD exist (as
> all rational people must surly agree?).
>






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