Netineti, you do drive an interesting distinction between a continuum of some who are ‘awakened’ in the BATGAP exploration of it and then those who have capacities to mediate a transformation of other people’s spiritual state, in a saintly way. Your guy seems to have capacity chops on the saintly axis. <Netineti Writes: Q: Curious as to who made Rick the annointer of who is considered a saint or that “Batgap-ers are something so special? A: Rick and his wife are the gatekeepers for BATGAP and have filled a gap that evidently was needed in spiritual discourse. . . Discussion: What becomes more unique and compelling about the Batgap interviews as a collection is the Batgap interviewer [Rick Archer] being able to find and give voice to abiding-awakened who are not necessarily well known, who are not necessarily professional speakers or who may have no organization around them. 'Typology' of Mystical Illumination; The www.BATGAP.com http://www.batgap.com/ Interviews: Mysticism by Type and Altruistic Community https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/CUCpSQ1G6SM https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/communal-studies-forum/CUCpSQ1G6SM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Thanks for sharing with us here the particular unorthodox spiritual road that you have taken in your life, Netineti. Yours is not an uncommon road from many here in the old Fairfield, Iowa meditating community. People from here had found these kind of transformational spiritual healer teachers also. Maharishi encouraged it at times. Guru Dev certainly did. In the 1990’s and -00's many of the more significant transformational spiritual teachers were propelled in to culture by an expertise of TM people at making gurus. Often you would see TM people in the organizations doing the organizing and fronting. It is a long list of sat guru calibre who have visited Fairfield out of simple connection. Some lot of national leaders in these organizations have lived here at times over the years. What I notice now in these organizations is that as the baby-boomers are demographically ‘clocking out’ and now you see a different group of middle aged people doing the mature work of organizing, speaking and writing for these people, work that was formerly fronted by TM people. I know of some here who see Ganapathy as they can. Apparently some years ago it was being arranged for him to visit to Fairfield but that was derailed at the time and he stayed away to Chicago instead (some story about this). It is a matter of initiative now. I would bet that this could be invited and arranged by some folks for Ganapathy now. Fairfield is what it is, a spiritual place, a spiritual community. In the community he would be respected and appreciated in the nature of how Fairfield, Iowa continues at a top of spiritual communities in the country. Something like as a spiritual heart of the country. For instance, Fairfield, Iowa as the number one Top City for Meditation. 30 Top Cities and Towns for Meditation in America An article: http://www.sonima.com/meditation/top-cities-for-meditation/ http://www.sonima.com/meditation/top-cities-for-meditation/ Kind Regards from Fairfield, D ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote : Netineti Writes: It took me awhile to offer a response. I will soon offer more in a post regarding Guru Tattva. dhamiltony2k5 wrote: <You do seem so smitten with this guy, Ganapathy > _guy_? Did you see the video “Guru Bandaru” where Sri Ganapathy Sachchidananda Swamiji stands in a blazing Homa Kunda with 4 fires in each corner and not a singed hair? For 12 years this Agni Puja was performed. You may see a human form but don't be fooled, He is Master of the Five Elements. _Guy?_ <A lot of Maha-Saints have come here to Fairfield. And quite a few BATGAP-ERS have visited too. Has Rick interviewed this guy Ganapathy? It has been pretty incredible who all has visited Fairfield, Iowa. Ganapathy? Actually another BATGAP-er has moved in recent months to the Fairfield, Iowa spiritual community.> What Maha-Saints have come to Fairfield? Curious as to who made Rick the annointer of who is considered a saint or that “Batgap-ers are something so special? I looked through his list. Rick should be so fortunate for such darshan of Sri Swamiji. If he wants to interview Him, he would need to come to Dallas, TX during the next Guru Purnima, when Sri Swamiji will be at the most amazing Karya Siddhi Hanuman Temple for 20 days. I could most likely arrange it if the intention is pure. About these "Maha" saints.... What have they done for the world? Do they have 9 Guinness World Records for World Peace? Are their functions free? Do 300,000 people flock to them in order to chant Hanuman Chalisa in their presence? Do hundreds of thousands of people from all walks of life around the world sing Hanuman Chalisa 14 billion times in the year to contribute to World Peace? Do 70,000 line up hours before dawn on Makara Sankranti and Yugadi just to walk in front of Him, not looking for a hug? Do 100,000 attend <Free> Healing and Meditation concerts? Do children as young as 5 years old find these so-called Maha Saints so inspiring and attractive that they memorize the entire 700 verses of Srimad Bhagavad Gita in 6 months? Do these people you refer to manifest in 8 places at the same time for their devotees? Do these people bring the dead back to life? So many thousands of miracles of devotees lives being dramatically changed as a result of His Compassion. This is what I call "Maha". <What is your relationship to Fairfield, Iowa?> I am very attuned to the mindset of the TMO. I lived deeply in the TMO tribe from 1971 until the turn of century. I left a wonderful homestead outside Fairfield in 2003. Like a grazing cow, I was told there was no better pasture, so I did not go looking over the fence for better. Why? #1: Because I was ignorant from the beginning and believed what I was told… that there wasn’t anything better tasting nor more efficient in producing the milk. 5-7 years for enlightenment sounded great! Plus, I wouldn’t have to do anything more than sit with my eyes closed for 20 minutes, twice a day. Such a deal it was for $35. I had nice experiences in meditation from the first which kept me going. I did the six month TTC in 1974 at the age of 23 which was a great boost for the ahankara, especially since we were told we had everything we needed to get enlightened and enlighten others through this teaching. Why look elsewhere? A testament to the western ego, always looking for something without effort. Nowhere in the Shastras does it say it is fast and easy. Quite the opposite in reality. I did six months “Governor” training in ’76-’77 that was the precursor to the siddhi program. Wow, super powers and flying? 1978 took me to Leysin, France for that Siddhi program, then the Rhode Island campaign and then the World Peace project that took me to Costa Rica and Nicaragua later that year. Did the 1979 Amherst project. I participated in the Washington DC project from ’83-’84, the Fairfield 7000 course, as well as teaching in the Philippines that year. The next year, I did the Hague gig then moved to Fairfield where for 15 years I was in the dome twice a day every day. I enjoyed all that grazing. While it was global, the pastures were all the same grass. We were all thinking we were going to get IT. How many have got it by grazing on that fodder? The second reason I didn’t look elsewhere for so long was that it was FORBIDDEN. The ego was inflated, as we all thought we were the best there was, the most deserving. Not dharmic thinking. I then became disillusioned with the cult, realizing my life was not changing for the better. I don’t consider myself a victim of the TMO. I am truly grateful for those nearly 30 years thinking Mahesh Yogi was _the_ be all and end all of teachers. Ignorance is Bliss. But MY ruined the notion of Guru for too many who surrendered to one who cared nothing for them. A sad thing that so many have discarded ever bowing down to anyone again. In 1996 someone gave me Sri Ganapathy Sachchidananda Swamiji's "Inner Healing" cd and a picture of Lord Dattatreya. I continued with the TMO program, listening to His music more and more. In July 2000, I "went to see Him" at a Healing and Meditation Concert in Chicago not thinking He should come to me. After that concert the Trinity Incarnate, the AdiGuru, Lord Dattatreya Avatara, Sri Ganapathy Sachchidananda Swamiji literally took my hand. I have not let go, nor has He. He provides the necessary tools to everyone in order to enhance that bond on a daily basis. He is my best friend, the best friend, my ONLY God. <You ever thought of bringing Ganapathy to Fairfield, Iowa?> His schedule is booked two years out, traveling worldwide to Bless devotees. He does not need to promote Himself. He goes to where His devotees are and is only looking for sincere seekers of God and those that have been associated with Him in past lives. This is the Datta leela. He incarnated to lead the world out of darkness to light. With the new auditorium in Fairfield, I personally think it would be great for a healing concert and could possibly initiate it, but I don't think Fairfield has the resources nor devotion to attract Him there. TMO seems to worship the science of the Unified Field, not the Almighty as propounded by Sanatana Dharma and the Tradition of Holy Masters. The cold path of science will not liberate. Vyasa compiled all the Vedas into the Puranas, et al and still, was not happy until Narada Muni showed up and told him to write about Lord SriKrishna. Hence we have the Srimad Bhagavatam. After this Vyasa gained bliss of devotion. Jaya Guru Datta
