Batgap guests with a TM background: 
https://batgap.com/past-interviews/categorical-index-guests/#TM

Rick Archer
Buddha at the Gas Pump
https://batgap.com

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:49 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance of Group Meditation! Excellent 
well written Doug! Great start for a FRESH & look inwards via the dome 
experience to be more inclusive




Good question, ArchOn. There is a composite of things here.

Reading your observation out to meditators in Ff, with easy regaling people do 
readily recall how nice the inner experiences were meditating in the group 
whence the aggregate numbers meditating together before were high.


Comments Also,

“Those who want to be and can be there doing program in the Domes are there 
now.”

“The place is still incredibly activated as a place to meditate.”

“For too long, since the 1980’s, the cumulative communications of exclusion 
were such that it became known that the group was not necessarily welcoming.”


“There is an assumption on both the admin and meditating community sides that 
people are not even listening and that it is way or likely past a recovery 
point.”

“This is sad really.”


“Knowing a moral character involved and the hostage taking of the creed of 
their religious belief, “That if Maharishi said something, it can’t be 
changed”, it will take massive administrative leadership magnanimity to move 
this forward towards thriving again, let alone just surviving.”


mag·na·nim·i·ty

generosity, charitableness, charity, benevolence, beneficence, open-handedness, 
big-heartedness, great-heartedness, liberality, humanity, nobility, chivalry, 
kindness, munificence, bountifulness, bounty, largesse, altruism, philanthropy;

unselfishness, selflessness, self-sacrifice, self-denial;

clemency, mercy, leniency, forgiveness, indulgence


There is an enduring cultural fear and anxiety about spiritual teachers as a 
stance that remains in the ownership that is held within the written membership 
guidelines for the group meditations. Fearing of people who would be spiritual 
teachers, fearing of those with their persistence for visiting spiritual 
people, and a fear of people, old meditators, who may work for other spiritual 
teachers.  By one or another count these have been held against people of the 
TM meditating community for decades here.


Our demographic pool to draw on has gotten very small.

In practicality those who have wanted to be in the Domes meditating with the 
large group often have worked around the guidelines i e., staying low as 
frightened flyers or as the process taught towards being yogic liars, while 
others simply have withdrawn from the movement community.


May the providential support of Nature grace a survival of the Fairfield Dome 
meditations through these currents of adverse times. Jai Guru Dev.


A remarkable thing now is to recognize how many people with their resources 
have sold homes and moved away now by what seems became a lack in communal 
cohesion driven to a detachment of peoples meditating in the Dome group by a 
remoteness from an insular group inside TM.


This while a number of folks of the old TM meditating community have become 
relevant spiritual commentators in larger culture as spiritual teachers where 
each can represent communal nodes of  old TM meditators who associate. The 
narrow membership guidelines to the group Dome meditation practice with the 
large group in the past were adversarial to and would have excluded most all of 
them. Scroll down Rick Archer’s Buddha at the Gas Pump and see how many of 
those interviewees are TM meditator alumni with TM in their pedigree and also 
have alignment followings that include TM meditators. Evidently these are a 
fruit of TM going mainstream. Should Batgappers with a following be able to 
simply meditate with the large group as TM meditators?


Figure there were about 6000 TM teachers in the mid-1970’s in the United States 
and only about 560 active TM teachers now and 300 or 400 people meditating in 
the Domes now. Driven on for decades these membership guidelines for 
participation in the large group have not been sympathetic towards gathering 
what is a gone away group back now. These policy guidelines instead have driven 
a type of known “bad blood” that is around TM.  For instance someone, an old 
TM’er, made a teacher by Maharishi, active in the meditating community here now 
and 30 years ago who stopped going to the Domes to meditate that long ago when 
friends in the old meditating community here were hunted down and had their 
Dome badges taken for seeing saints. This person living here with the evident 
administrative dissonance with the community has not been back in the Domes 
since.


Which goes back to that comment above,

“There is an assumption on both the admin and meditating community sides that 
people are not even listening and that it is way or likely past a recovery 
point.”


This will take some extraordinary communal leadership for the Dome meditation 
to survive.

//


srijau writes
there are profoundly satisfying experiences however:
1. they are dead now
or
2. they cannot afford to live there without the stipend
or
3. its too cold when you are that old now.
that pretty much sums it up


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
<archonan...@yahoo.com<mailto:archonan...@yahoo.com>> wrote :
Advertising aside, it does appear the Superradiance experiment is actually a 
failure. Why not just cap it off and do something that is worthwhile in some 
other way?

Leadership is an important contribution, but there could be other reasons why 
people don't come. What is the level of fulfillment for people who do do the 
program, but for some other reason do not come?

What are peoples' experience of the techniques in general? When experiences are 
published, they are the cream of the crop, but what about the average joe? Lots 
of peoples' experiences of meditation and the sidhi program are not spectacular 
by any means. How do you entice them?

On Saturday, February 2, 2019, 3:01:47 AM GMT, 
dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:



Re: The Importance of Group Meditation!
Excellent well written Doug! Great start for a FRESH & look inwards via the 
dome experience to be more inclusive..

In FF conversation..


"..Spiritual Evolution is a whole lot easier in a group. It will take a whole 
lot longer individually, to do this individually alone. It ‘takes a village’. 
When we do this together obviously you are the first beneficiary of it but you 
are also affecting the collective, our collective and also the larger 
collective.  So thank you for coming to Fairfield and the group meditation in 
community we do here."



Yes, thanks for seeing this. .


It should be important in the survival of the Dome meditation right now that 
any who have access to levels of the ownership in TM where policy is made could 
be copying and pasting points of this exchange below in to communication with 
those power people at the top. Engage whoever and wherever the power is vested, 
where the levers of power are.  Send ‘em a letter, mail, e-mail, imessages, 
facebook messenger, phone them, tweet them, however.


The Dome meditation attendance numbers are in crisis. Month by month these 
numbers continue to dwindle. The metrics of this situation are foreboding. 
Numbers are dropping in a consistency by 10 and 20 a month for many many months 
now. This is not just an administrative problem but one of leadership. The 
recent month attendance numbers are not just lower but now hitting lows lower 
than they were prior to the beginning of the late assembly in 2006.


There evidently is a core cultural problem in leadership of the TM movement 
that for a cohesion in survival of this community needs to be proactively 
addressed right now. Everyone’s help is needed on pressing this now.


Who has contact with, policy access to Dr. Nader?

Dr. Hagelin: MUM President’s Office,  641-472-1260. 
presid...@mum.edu<mailto:presid...@mum.edu>


JGD,


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
<wle...@aol.com<mailto:wle...@aol.com>> wrote :
EXCELLENT Doug very well thought  & presented in a respectful, &  loving manor 
with the past restrictive codes put aside, MOST REFRESHING!  To read & to see 
the compassion & love between the lines Doug!

The group meditation  & coupling it with the TM Sidhi program reduces combat , 
prevents wars & is most helpful for the health of the community at large.
AGAIN THANKS in gratitude for your well shared KNOWLEDGE back up with Guru Dev 
Quotes

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From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> [FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>>
To: FairfieldLife 
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Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2019 7:59 am
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance of Group Meditation



..based on the non-religious Transcendental Meditation (TM) program,
As strange as it may sound, when large groups of trained practitioners sit down 
on a daily basis to do this meditation program together, a powerful "field 
effect" of coherence and peace ripples throughout the consciousness of the 
surrounding population. The bigger the group the bigger the effect. The 
outcomes, confirmed repeatedly by extensive scientific research, are consistent 
and measurable decreases in war deaths, terrorism, and crime.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
<dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote :
Dear Drs. Hagelin and Nader:

Now that the pundits are gone from Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa could you write 
the membership application guidelines for the Domes anew?

The old guidelines are yet too inflammatory towards superradiance as they are 
cobbled and wordsmithed.  Please sit and write with a new piece of paper a new 
and fresh Dome application guideline now for membership in the group programs, 
now the pundits are gone. Start with a fresh sheet of paper.  Get it down to 
simple: did someone learn the ™ programs and that this is what they will do in 
the group programs for superradiance.

This would be a good time to just go in and gut, drop the clause from the 
guidelines that remains excluding from membership people who spend money on 
‘non-Maharishi’ jyotish and yagya. The earnest reason it was put in there 
originally evidently has gone away. It is time to just get rid of that clause 
in the membership application guideline. There is no sense now to having the 
office staff there investigating that one on people anymore.

The pundit program had been a long endured suction of resource out of the 
Fairfield community. That clause about people spending monies on 
‘non-Maharishi’ jyotish and yagya along with the couple of other clauses that 
are left there as some kind of fealty test within the membership guidelines is 
just needlessly inflammatory to succeeding with the Dome attendance numbers and 
superradiance in Fairfield now.

Sincerely, Doug Hamilton.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
<dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote :
A morality,
Q: I don’t recall anything about “principles of higher moral character” in the 
air when we first came here from Amherst.

A: Meditation in groups,  Maharishi was consistent the whole way about the 
utility of group meditating influencing a wellbeing of good for others at a 
distance. This remarkable idea in practice is a simple disruptor to a lot of 
people’s material paradigm but after so many decades of inquiry in to this 
observation the science has well borne out the hypothesis.

And, Guru Dev too in his spiritual construct on moral order could have easily 
agreed now given what all we know from the inquiry of science, that people who 
do not go to group meditations when they could join with them are being amoral 
in their selfishness.

That someone sitting out in a coffee house whether in Leiden watching videos on 
their laptop or those meditators idle downtown around the Fairfield, iowa town 
square at Paradiso, the Cider House, the Sushi bar, or in Revelations during 
the communal group meditation is near to worthless and worse morally in their 
contribution to the general good and communal welfare, a drag, amoral.

So this, the virtue of group meditation is now in the reach of this spiritual 
but not religious time of science and spirituality that we do live in.  Yet, 
people who would stay home by themselves, be it some Raja hold up somewhere out 
there by themselves, or an editor working overtime somewhere and may be would 
meditate later, but also an administration and its defenders with a 
religious-like adherence to ill-serving guidelines that should keep people away 
who could otherwise be meditating with the group evidently are all worst than 
sad but pretty bad morally.  Jai Guru Dev.

Thread 437705
Re: What did ‘Guru Dev’ say on Spiritual Morality and its Moral Compass
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/437705


.< Interesting to see how the principles of higher moral character that were 
the communal experiment started at Amherst in ‘78 have been eroded and hurt in 
the administration of it.
For outsiders or people from away looking in on the experiment I recommend 
their reading "Greetings From Utopia Park" and listening to the NPR 'Fresh Air' 
interview of Claire Hoffman for insight to how it went.

I don’t recall anything about “principles of higher moral character” in the air 
when we first came here from Amherst.

Q: I appreciate what you’re doing with the group meditation thing, but I like 
meditating at home. I usually take a nap first, then just sit up and meditate. 
Times vary.

A: Evidently a lot of people feel this way also about meditating with the TM 
group, not turning out for what was superradiance
of the group.
The numbers in the Dome meditation are incredibly low now.

#




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
<dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote :
Meditation brings wisdom;
lack of meditation leaves ignorance.
Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back,
and choose the path that leads to wisdom.  -The Buddha



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, 
<dhamiltony...@yahoo.com<mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>> wrote :
Meditate and Act


Meditation with activity has always been the TM teaching (B.Gita II v 48).  
This teaching was one of the things also used to convince a change in the 
administration policy at a point to modify the ‘long’ IAAssembly morning 
program rounds to get it all shortened down more to what it is now with the 
idea according to the teaching to get them out of there and in to the world and 
community before the mid-day and to give them longer in the afternoon to ‘do 
things’ of life and be in the community.

That was important to have happen at the time for people’s health and general 
wellbeing. The long program the way it was enforced was turning folks in to 
pale renunciates in front of us here in the community. Then it is just a matter 
of how people may use their time between meditations. Turning compost for 
health is not a bad use of time. Meditate and perform action.  Communicating 
this by FFL was an effective element at the time in turning this around for the 
better. .
Jai Guru Dev




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