--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > on 12/27/05 12:44 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > --- authfriend wrote: > > > >> > > > >> The more abstract the understanding of the nature of > > > >> devas, the less "religious" they seem. Sort of like > > > >> "Christ" the divine/human center of the Christian > > > >> religion, versus the universal "Christ" as a mode of > > > >> consciousness. > > > > > > > > I've been trying to remember if I've ever heard anyone > > > > say or write, "My mantra came to visit me in a tangible > > > > form, and I saw it to be a god." Nothing comes to mind. > > > > That leaves the abstract understanding, which indeed > > > > has no religious feelings for me. > > > > > > Although on a Rishikesh TTC, Maharishi did say that you > eventually > > > do perceive the deity associated with your mantra. > > > > Sure. But is it an actual personified being, or is it > > how one's own perception translates the abstraction into > > something it can grasp? > > ...that IS what a personified being is: one's own perception > translates the abstraction into something it can grasp.
That's what I think too. I'm asking whether the personified being exists independently of that translation; I don't believe it does. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/