The Meditating Community and the TMO, Fairfieldlife.
Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ The FFL list can be read off the internet from its homepage, without having to be a member. Go to the home page, start there by clicking on 'messages'. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/messages >From there you can insert these numbers into the message # search box. That will take you to the area of the archive of these threads. Often I point newcomers, recent arrivals or outsiders to FFL through this list. Below is a quick index. Scroll down through this index and survey the range of subject threads. This index includes many various summary posts in the archive like: -the petition contained in post # 3811 (The Meditating Rift Here) -The TMO, partitioning the Meditating Community thread, # 3478 -Meditating Classical Concert Pianist Banned from MUM thread #3113 (late Nov, Dec '02) -Meditating Irish Musician Banned from MUM # 2963 -Meditators Banned from MUM # 4219 , 4402 -Is Everyone Welcome? 953 -The difference between a shooting star and a falling one: # 2960 The Meditating Community Mexican Stand-off: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26429 -The one hundred millionaires thread # 985 or 949 -Some resolution #726 and thread -Heavenly Mountain # 935 -Legal remedy and threads # 3965 -The meditating community-wide survey # 3896 thread Also look in the "files" section of FFL. The actual survey is archived there. The seeds of the present where present then in 1994~ It is a very interesting reading. -Fairfield and the TMO, the dwindle # 4724 -The Iowa Meditating Landscape, Trickle-down Depopulation 4503 , 4502 , 13564 -The Kaplans and their money threads, # 3040 or # 3420 The recurring million dollar questions spread throughout the archive: -Fiscal Soundness summary, 5958 -Financial disclosure thread, 5012, 5026 The Real Estate Guru, D Magazine, 10938 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10938 Estimating the Assets: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13902 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13959 Hartford Advocate, Maharishi's Hotel of Emptiness: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17234 TMO purchases NYC Wall Street building http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28546 -Endowing, process and The Meditating Community 637 -The Kaplan Lawsuit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10936 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13217 -Kaplans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13274 -Lawsuit Against the Kaplans http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17110 (More on the Kaplans & Heavenly Mountain in sequence below) -The TMO and the CIA thread 5752 -Threats in the fair field, 5057 and 5063 , 30276 -What is the hook here, what is the story here thread, # 4813 # 4762 -The Sex Summaries I-IV, 6154 through 6157 and and also posts during late December 2002 and post # 7663, - Sexy-Sadie.txt, A compilation of posts about MMY's other guru life. In the "files" section of FFL: http://f2.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/gIA3QBSi0yiUE0KAJU0EYsFiuNMzTjUDZ9j_z6LV 5ZzXmp28u4oqzeDr-oTxvZoE24PfMGM0qlTS19MYa1GOhseOzU9TQi15Llf-/Sexy- Sadie.txt You might have to sign in to read the 'files' section of the FFL archive -Summarized Topic Articles Titled:, 4813 -Guru Dev's Discourse: Gyan & Bhakti 7883 and 7884 -TM Scandals a Logical Sequence, 7430, Insights to TMO in India, 7504 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13338 -J.Krishnamurti, 1929 Speech Dissolving his organization, post 7513 -Search for Global Queen, 7664 -Just go, don't enter in to the politics, Karunamayi, 7849 -Tax-exempt Status Lost, 7793 -TM&Sedona, 7510 - Walking the dog, where to go to learn meditation outside the cult: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13502 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37303 -MMY's comments about other techniques, links: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28270 -The Diaspora, The Informal-TMO, 8176 -Bevan, MUM Presidential Frolic'ng , 8220 About Cult in the TMO culture.. 10346 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10346 Cult test: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/10307 Of Contracts, vows and loyalty testing thread 10307, 10319 -Funding the Pundits thread, 12679, 13565, 16026 Rudra's Letter: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13305 Also MMY's Family Money : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13568 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/31999 Mahapatra: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/48039 Zimmerman money: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13226 TMO 'investment' properties in India http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=25966 Spiritual Accounting: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/19273 -TMO announcement concerning the "End of the World" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/12690 - 12801 Dealing with scandal, Killing the Buddha thread. - charges of Impropriety thread http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/14528 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/14535 -Spiritual Accounting, 'Reputational Capital': http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/19401 -Fairfield life, prognosis Fall '03, 13043 - 13610 Raising Kids in the TMO thread. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/13610 -Murder on Campus, the thread unravels starting from: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/19830 (good insight in to the sociology of the FF meditating community, skim the successive posts for about two weeks after this initial post.) March 2004 -Statistics:Unreported crime in culture. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/14107 - TMO Cult of Vastu & FF: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/19286 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/39014 -Skimming Tuitions, Muhurt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/20441 29487 -An MUM student's observations from inside: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/20449 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/20565 Insights to the Fairfield utopian experiment: 1) Summary Review, The Super-Radiance Theory, the "N-squared effect" of group meditations: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/21796 2) MMY commencement charge to MUM grads: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28801 3) TM & "Meissner" Effect: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/20748 4) FF super-radiance, some history: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/15 Rigor, credibility of TMO research: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37535 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37561 also a long discussion several days before and after 1 Nov. 2005: see home page table of message history, click on 1 Nov 2005 & navigate using the `previous' and `next' buttons. Heavenly Mountain Disputed more: Published Article: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26773 e-letter from David Kaplan: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26771 Kaplans tell Purusha & Mother Divine to vacate Heavenly Mt. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28540 Judge dismisses cases against Kaplans in Heavenly Mt. rift http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28541 Articles on Heavenly Mt. rift, June '04: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28542 Kaplans revisited, thread: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/38168 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30263 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30266 Earl Kaplan's Letter 4.16.04 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/32360 More meditators banned: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/24466 At MUM, Leave none un-fleeced: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/24857 Pundit Update, May 04: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/25194 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/25607 Guidestar: Non-profit indexing to IRS filings: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28039 Heavy Fundraising Announcement, June-04: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28805 TMO buys NYC building: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28546 Replies to TMO fund-raisings & NYC building acquisition: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28725 Also: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28769 28864 29116 29213 Belief & Disillusionment: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/28812 Hegelin defending the bannings, the fundraising and status quo http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/31817 Kirkpatrick defending the status quo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/67668 True-believing in method: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/31716 Quelling Meeting with Hagelin: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29307 Notes & replies on the meeting: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29534 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29416 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29522 Hagelin & the Factor of Meditating Community Trust Lost: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29603 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29604 Hagelin: TMO Fundraising Income tied to bank loans for more money: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29959 Outline 6-04: restructuring the movement distilled, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29512 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29548 Hagelin defending the bannings in FF public meeting. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/31817 TMO Business practice in method, examples: Money sent abroad on MSAE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29565 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29571 Stiffing swimming pool contractors, solicited co-signatures & hotel housing http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29575 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29591 Buses: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29580 The Culture of Tactic: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29606 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/29595 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30078 i.e., More suitcases of cash: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30299 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30313 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/33737 Pundit money co-mingled and sent abroad: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30244 Appreciated Avon Lake Property Sold: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/34237 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/34300 The Earl Kaplan Letter 4.16.04 Text: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/32360 The Donor Diaspora, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30972 M. Vedic City reviewed, NH Union Leader article: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/34353 Local Politics: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/35678 Public Funding for things 'Vedic': http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37233 Evangelical Christians and Meditators, Evangelizing FF: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79479 Heavy Metals in AV Indian Herbs, Forbes Article Discussion: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/38375 Pundit Update thread, 12.29.2004 # 39211 Camelot, Oklahoma Peace Palace article 10.2005: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77386 TMO cashes out Florida Vedaland 5.2005: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/55574 Re-certification: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/56424 Guardian Article, MMY pulls out of England: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/68040 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/68636 Skelmersdale Article 8.2005, TMOrg meditators split: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/67944 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/80923 Fairfield longtime meditators: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/30785 Peace at a Price, Oregon article: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/68635 Directory of Active Spiritual Practice Groups in Fairfield: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77260 Directory http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/76965 (threads) Teaching TM in Peace Palaces 2005 : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77915 Trademark and Indi-teaching of TM, St. Louis Sentencing program: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77997 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/80922 Florida: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81194 California: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82186 TMO editing PR (NYTimes article): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/79381 Threads in Delusion of Self-importance: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/83004 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/83006 Threads of self-importance, money & management: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82885 Blackstone Hotel sold: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/83007 Peace Palaces in Pittsburgh: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81104 These posts scratch the surface. The four-plus year archive here does tell a story. You will find the story when you prowl around. It becomes apparent. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug Continuing on about the culture of the FFL list: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Doughney" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k1 wrote: > > > for a little perspective, how would you tell an outsider > > > what the story is here? > Mike and also "L_B_Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write: snip > Like all online forums focused on the (TMOrg) movement and its > programs that I'm aware of, discussion migrates into what I'd call "in the head" things - talk of experiences and the movement's explanations/dogmas regarding those experiences. All of this is just meaningless noise to the outside observer, who will just tune out unless they're acclimated to the fact that these discussions are just like that, and to get any information about the "story" they're going to have to dig for a considerable amount of time to find something interesting and understandable in all the noise. ***** L B:I agree about the digging, although there are nuggets of pure gold in this chat from time to time. > I'd also say that this phenomenon is by design, that any discussion of actual quality of life issues gets dwarfed by all this one-upsmanship centered on experiences and interpretation thereof. It's a learned habit, showing what people are really attached to, and that attachment seems to be something distinct from concrete quality of life issues, and it's learned from the movement because the movement tends to be like that. But to an > outsider it makes no sense at all. Rick Archer writes: Major media have done balanced stories on other spiritual movements. Someone posted a link here to a New Yorker story on Muktananda's movement which covered the money, sex, and internal politics issues quite thoroughly. The Times of India and other media have covered the Sai Baba story extensively. If these things are done right, they're of interest to a wide readership. What do we have here? Sex: numerous personal secretaries and maybe some of the women would be happy to talk to reporters. Money: this would take some serious sleuth work by an outfit larger than the Fairfield Ledger preferably one with correspondents in India. Does M's family own mansions and Rolls Royce's? Let's see photos. What does the movement have to show for the millions it has raised? Politics: the banning issues here in Fairfield. All three of these angles have at their root the issue of honesty and integrity. How wide is the gulf between the public façade and the actual reality? In a truly healthy movement, there would be no gulf. Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Major media have done balanced stories on other spiritual movements. L B: I agree that there are people out there capable of doing it right, but I was thinking more in terms of the mainstream media outlets in the regional markets. (Local)KTVO, WHO, KGAN, KCRG. These guys never go for depth, in my experience. The Des Moines Register is capable of getting it right sometimes, but often settles for the cheap shot. So the story will not be well told until it falls into the hands of a really good story teller. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for a little perspective, how would you tell an outsider > what the story is here? > > > Certainly a large part of the story here is that there is a community > of people who have pursued a spiritual practice for over 20 and 30 > years, a meditating-community. The story also includes that there > have become some spiritually very powerful people in their own > experience here, from this life of focused pursuit. Some of the flow > of subject thread of this list indicates this aspect of what is going > on here. > > We have some lit people here. This is part of the story > along with the meditator bannings, the sx, the fund-raisings, the > projects, the TMO and the Kaplans' lost money, money appropriated etc. >That there is > spiritual experience here is what keeps people here while there is > also conflict here now. > That there are lit people here quietly pursuing their 'sadhana' on their own or in other small groups now is partly why things are > changing within the meditating community of FF. For instance, this is also what > draws the repeating flow of saints, sadus & pundits through here > these last few years. The 'Shakti' of a few thousand meditators who have pursued their meditation practice now for 20, 30 and 40 years here is something to > behold and there is word out about it in the larger spiritual community. >This also is manifestly a part of > Fairfieldlife and is partly why people are so earnest, apart from parts of the campus and its TMO cult mood- > making. Yes, 'Jai Guru Dev', and with gratitude to Maharishi; > however, in looking, there is a story of change here going on now. > It is a fascinating story for what it is. > > Jai Guru Dev, -Doug > > > > Fairfieldlife, what is the story here? > > I get e-mail sent to me on the side. For instance, this was sent to > me on the side: > > <Paste> > <I've actually been on the FairfieldLife list myself for about a > month -- > I didn't feel like I was as in touch as I wanted to be with what was > going on in the community. I've been following the recent exchanges > about people being banned from campus for seeing Ammachi with some > interest and trying to figure out if there was a > story to write about it. > > > > <I would like to look into this more. I'm curious as to what you see > the > main "hook" as. Are the incidents with Suzanne Niedermeyer and Tim > Britton the big things right now? Or is it the declining number of > people in the domes? Or is it, just overall, the rift between M.U.M. > and > the meditating community as a whole? > > > > <I guess another question I have is, is there a rift with people > pretty > much on one side or the other, or are there a lot of people who don't > offend anyone and don't care? And how many people would you guess are > siding with the university admin. as opposed to being ostracized by > it? > > > > <Would you be interested in meeting to talk sometime, or is e-mail > better > for you? Let me know. I'd also be looking for other folks to talk > to. > I can get some names off the Yahoo group, but anyone you can steer me > to > in particular would be better. > > <end paste> >> > > > For some time now I have been inviting outsiders to this > list. Since about Thanksgiving, I have been going to the major print- > media, radio and cable editors inviting their writers to look in on > the story here. I have persistently gone through at least all of the > major print media once or twice going to their web pages ferreting > out > their editors and inviting them with a cover letter about the story > here. To academia also. > > > Some one a little while ago on the list here cautioned that we > should be careful what we are saying here , that "the Des Moines > Register or the AP" might pick it up. Well, actually they are here > too in all likelihood. There is more than just "us" here lurking. > > So for a little perspective, how would you tell an outsider > what the story is here? > > There is at least an anthropology PhD. thesis here, but there is > a story here. How would you break it down for an outsider to see? > What is the hook here? > > Jai Guru Dev, -Doug ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
