--- Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Comment below: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2006, at 9:10 PM, Marek Reavis wrote: > > > > > If Nisargadatta was speaking "generally" in > those talks, withholding > > > the "real methods" of realization then it would > seem to me that he was > > > a profound liar, inasmuch as the directness, > simplicity and lucidity > > > of what he says in those talks is so completely > at odds with > > > esotericism. > > > > Not necessarily. He may have felt there were few > who were ready for > > his teaching and therefore only taught what he > taught to the masses. > > It doesn't make what he shared a lie by any means. > Christ is quoted > > in one of the Gospels as saying he only talked in > parables and > > stories to the masses; his inner teaching was > preserved for his > > closer students. > > > > IIRC Ramana was an adept of Ma Kali, but he did > not teach those > > methods that I've ever heard. So it's interesting > to me that > > Nisargadatta was taught my a Nath but never taught > anything from that > > tradition. > > > > It's interesting to see how this new advaita thing > is spreading. > > > **END** > > Could you be more specific as to what you mean by > the "new advaita > thing"? It sounds as if you're implying something > negative but I > don't know enough to comment. > > Perhaps you are better informed than I, but it is my > understanding > that Ramana Maharishi was devoted to Shiva, in > particular the holy > Mount Arunchala, sacred to Shiva, that he considered > his guru. > Ramakrishna, however, was a devotee of Ma Kali and > was a priest at the > Kali temple in Calcutta. Maybe you have the two > confused? > > If you read Nisargadatta it appears that he clearly > believed he was > teaching out of the Nath tradition, specifically > what he had learned > from his guru. However, from what I've read, his > guru, > Siddharameshwar, taught an understanding of the Nath > tradition that > may be at variance with others. Again, I do not > have the expertise to > comment more completely. My take on this: You become realized through a relationship to a guru. Some continue to teach within the techniques and concepts of their guru's tradition and others take a completely different turn. Brahman blossoms regardless. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
