Jyotir Math was a comfortable living in India,  with servants and 
massive donors from the Hindu community (this is common knowledge, 
and you are being a naive western baby boomer if you think it was 
otherwise), as well as many volunteers (which included Maharishi for 
a decade or so). Guru Dev spent more than 10 years there in what we 
would call his 'retirement years'. 
Kinda like when I get to 70+ I am thinking of becoming a small-time 
opium addict in the mountains of Thailand in a nice bamboo hut, and 
a paid servant to bring me fruit and soya milk... :-)

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jyotir Math has been described here on FFL as a lodge, furthermore 
it 
> appears that Guru Dev seldom visited Jyotir Math.
> 
> The term retirement is a surprising way to describe the period 
Guru 
> Dev undertook the position of Shankaracharya of Northern India.
> 
> Is it possible that you might share your sources about the 
financial 
> support you suggest Guru Dev received for his ashram and mission?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > As far as I know, Guru Dev lived in a mansion in his retirement 
> > called the Jyotir Math, with servants and massive donors from 
the 
> > Hindu community, as well as many volunteers (which included 
> > Maharishi fro a decade or so).
> > 
> > OffWorld
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance 
with 
> > > Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but 
> more 
> > > etichal than what he shows these days. I think the influence 
of 
> > Guru 
> > > Dev faded more and more as he became The Big Guru.
> > > Ingegerd 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching 
was 
> > > still 
> > > > fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness 
> diminished 
> > > as 
> > > > time passed, to the point where he now represents a teaching 
> > quite 
> > > > alien to that of Guru Dev's.
> > > > That is the corrupting force of materialism, which he 
appears 
> > not 
> > > to 
> > > > have been a match for.
> > > > Just my opinion.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. 
You 
> > can 
> > > > take 
> > > > > > > > out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I 
> would 
> > > > > guess, 
> > > > > > > > to learn an advanced technique as well...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > *****************
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The loan to learn TM is not low-interest (the Citibank 
> > > > > Citiassist 
> > > > > > > loan is prime rate plus points, instead of less than 
> prime 
> > > rate 
> > > > > > > like 
> > > > > > > Stafford govt-guaranteed loans), because it is not a 
> > > government-
> > > > > > > guaranteed/subsidized loan, but a private student loan 
> > that 
> > > > > either 
> > > > > > > requires good credit or a co-signer -- it's the same 
loan 
> > > that 
> > > > > MUM 
> > > > > > > students in the Computer Professional program get:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.mum.edu/compro/citiassist.html
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > for MUM students who are foreign nationals, Iowa banks 
> > give 
> > > a 
> > > > > loan 
> > > > > > > (guaranteed by MUM itself):
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.mum.edu/compro/financial.html#cploan
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think you people are missing the point, big-time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The very fact that someone should have to take out
> > > > > > a loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. And
> > > > > > the organization that places the people of the world
> > > > > > in that position are the criminals.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You are so right. MMY has changed his mind about loans. I 
> > > remember 
> > > > > in the early-early days that MMY said that we never should 
> > take 
> > > up 
> > > > > loans, because it made a limit to our freedom. He said 
that 
> > the 
> > > > > persons or banks that gave us loans, made us as slaves - 
> > because 
> > > > > they owned a part of us. I think that this was something 
he 
> > had 
> > > > from 
> > > > > Guru Dev.
> > > > > Ingegerd
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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