Jyotir Math was a comfortable living in India, with servants and massive donors from the Hindu community (this is common knowledge, and you are being a naive western baby boomer if you think it was otherwise), as well as many volunteers (which included Maharishi for a decade or so). Guru Dev spent more than 10 years there in what we would call his 'retirement years'. Kinda like when I get to 70+ I am thinking of becoming a small-time opium addict in the mountains of Thailand in a nice bamboo hut, and a paid servant to bring me fruit and soya milk... :-)
OffWorld --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jyotir Math has been described here on FFL as a lodge, furthermore it > appears that Guru Dev seldom visited Jyotir Math. > > The term retirement is a surprising way to describe the period Guru > Dev undertook the position of Shankaracharya of Northern India. > > Is it possible that you might share your sources about the financial > support you suggest Guru Dev received for his ashram and mission? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > As far as I know, Guru Dev lived in a mansion in his retirement > > called the Jyotir Math, with servants and massive donors from the > > Hindu community, as well as many volunteers (which included > > Maharishi fro a decade or so). > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > This is my opinion too. His thinking was more in accordance with > > > Guru Dev. Not quite - as I read the quotes from Guru Dev, but > more > > > etichal than what he shows these days. I think the influence of > > Guru > > > Dev faded more and more as he became The Big Guru. > > > Ingegerd > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It sounds like in the early-early days Guru Dev's teaching was > > > still > > > > fairly fresh in his awareness, but that the freshness > diminished > > > as > > > > time passed, to the point where he now represents a teaching > > quite > > > > alien to that of Guru Dev's. > > > > That is the corrupting force of materialism, which he appears > > not > > > to > > > > have been a match for. > > > > Just my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Contact MUM about the nearest World Peace Palace. You > > can > > > > take > > > > > > > > out a low-interest student loan to learn TM, and I > would > > > > > guess, > > > > > > > > to learn an advanced technique as well... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loan to learn TM is not low-interest (the Citibank > > > > > Citiassist > > > > > > > loan is prime rate plus points, instead of less than > prime > > > rate > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > Stafford govt-guaranteed loans), because it is not a > > > government- > > > > > > > guaranteed/subsidized loan, but a private student loan > > that > > > > > either > > > > > > > requires good credit or a co-signer -- it's the same loan > > > that > > > > > MUM > > > > > > > students in the Computer Professional program get: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mum.edu/compro/citiassist.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for MUM students who are foreign nationals, Iowa banks > > give > > > a > > > > > loan > > > > > > > (guaranteed by MUM itself): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mum.edu/compro/financial.html#cploan > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you people are missing the point, big-time. > > > > > > > > > > > > The very fact that someone should have to take out > > > > > > a loan to learn to meditate is what's criminal. And > > > > > > the organization that places the people of the world > > > > > > in that position are the criminals. > > > > > > > > > > You are so right. MMY has changed his mind about loans. I > > > remember > > > > > in the early-early days that MMY said that we never should > > take > > > up > > > > > loans, because it made a limit to our freedom. He said that > > the > > > > > persons or banks that gave us loans, made us as slaves - > > because > > > > > they owned a part of us. I think that this was something he > > had > > > > from > > > > > Guru Dev. > > > > > Ingegerd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/