--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But if I understand correctly, you've never taught > > > > meditation in *either* context, right? You're > > > > just stating that things are FALSE and TRUE based > > > > *entirely* on what you've been told by others. > > > > Right? :-) :-) :-)>>> > > > > > > No I am stating rationality. I don't care about your subjective > > > experience of teaching. You are trying to get me to 'believe' > > > you based on your "superior" experience. > > > > Dude, I'm really not. > > > > That's just the way you see things because you're > > so used to TM teachers and the TM organization > > trying to sell you things. > > No, in fact this is the way most people react to > the strongly stated opinions of others; and, in fact, > this is what most people are trying to do when they > strongly state their opinions: sell them. > > You *claim* to be an exception. But your behavior > suggests otherwise. > > At the same time, you *claim* the TMO is also an > exception in that it attempts to sell its opinions. > That the TMO is somehow an exception in this regard > isn't true either, of course. > > Nor is it the case that because a person says > something that happens to agree with what you call > the TM "party line," therefore that person is just > parroting what they've been told. You use that > mantra to avoid having to examine the issues on > their merits. It's just a thought-stopper. > > > I care not a whit what you believe. > > Yes, you do, because it gives you yet another > opportunity to put down a TMer and try to sell > your True Non-Believer beliefs. > > > You and your > > beliefs are mere gnats on the windshield of my > > life. :-) I'm not trying to sell you anything; > > that you think I am reveals how conditioned you > > are to believe that everyone who expresses an > > opinion contrary to yours IS trying to sell you > > something. :-) > > This may be the "conditioning" of the culture in > general; it is not, as noted, conditioning that is > unique to the TMO. > > > > It is the same bullshit that most of the the > > > baby-boomer TM teachers have spouted both inside and > > > outside the movement. I am using rationality....not > > > religion....as you are. > > > > Please point out for us where in any of these > > posts I have used "religion" to make any point. > > I'll wait. :-) :-) :-) > > As you are, I suspect, well aware, off_world was using > "religion" in the sense of "unexamined belief," not > sectarianism. > > > > For the world as a whole - in the most dangerous time in > > > history - it is of negligible importance to teach small > > > time... > > > > Do you really NOT know that you just repeated the TM > > party line, almost verbatim? :-) THEY were the ones > > who told you that it's "the most dangerous time in > > history." > > Actually that's a very widespread belief, not at > all unique to the TMO. > > THEY were the ones who told you that it's > > not important to teach "small time." YOU just chose > > to believe them > > Or thought about it and decided it was correct on > the basis of personal observation, experience, and > reflection. > > <snip> > > > ...in which no-one is taught for free in India and elsewhere, > > > as a result of your teaching, and that borders on selfish.... > > > flirts with the devil (ie.I, me, mine). > > > > I'm sure that on your home planet that made some kind > > of sense, but since it doesn't on mine, I shall allow > > it to pass without comment. :-) > > Translation: It would take some thinking to address, > so I'll pretend it makes no sense and dismiss it > without consideration. > > <snip> > > > You may actually > > > be stealing from these poor people in 3rd world countries that > > > cannot afford Western prices. So please get off your high horse > > > about being a 'real' teacher, and deal with rationality. I have > > > no interest in joining your religion. > > > > 1) I have never made any suggestion that I am a 'real' > > teacher; you hallucinated that. > > No, you tried to dismiss what off_world was saying on > the basis that you and others here had been teachers of > meditation, whereas he had not. > > <snip> > > I'm trying to get something across to you > > Translation: I'm trying to sell my belief. > > -- this idea > > that people are trying to *sell* you things has been > > *taught* to you by the organization that *has* tried to > > sell you things since you got involved with it. And the > > idea that *other* people are trying to sell you things > > is an outgrowth of the sense of self-importance that > > the TM organization *also* taught you.
I saw the neatest nature show on HD TV the other day. It was all about skunks. It turns out that the long-held myth that they spray their stinky- smelling scent as an agressive thing to ward off attackers is just that, a myth. It turns out, when they wire the skunks up and study what is going on physiologically, that the spraying of the stinky stuff has to do with FEAR. When skunks are fright- ened or feel threatened the muscles around their glands contract and the stinky stuff just squirts out automatically, in the process stinking up anyone or anything that happens to be around. I've noticed the same thing in some humans. When someone presents an opinion that is contrary to one that they hold, the rigid, attached folks get afraid, and their sphincters automatically contract and they stink up the place. The things you can learn on TV... :-) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
