--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > That the simple statment, "the intellect is a quite useful* > > tool in the attainment of higher states" was found so > > incorrect by some readers as to be hilarious, at least > > can't help but raise a smile. > > That's a topic I participated in, but it was Barry who viciously > attacked you with his laughter. I only disagreed in a respectful tone. > > > So much talk on this list, particularly by neo-advaitans > > or pseudo-advaitans, is about the great value of > > self-inquiry. What exactly is used in self-inquiry, ones > > big toe? > > What's really funny for me right now is how everything is flipped > upside down and inside out. I have zero formal training in > self-inquiry, and asking myself "who am I" used to result in nothing > but frustration and an immediate shift of attention to anything else. > Recently, I've been asking myself the same question, and it literally > shuts down my intellect, every time. I ask the question and I > immediately zone out into awareness. So, what's being used? I don't > know! It seems like it starts with intellect, but the answer is > utterly beyond it. > > Similarly, for the past 10-12 years, I couldn't tolerate more than 3-5 > minutes of TM at a time. But, the other morning, I woke up at 3:30am > and sat up to meditate. No mantra came to me, and I just sat there, > silently witnessing the breath, which became very faint. And, 20 > minutes went by in a flash. In all my years of doing TM, I *never* had > as profoundly deep a meditation as that. I was all like, "No no no! > You don't meditate to awaken! You awaken so you can meditate!" LOL!!! > > Alex >
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