ingrained work ethic is ingrained too. Ingrained sense of being the 
doer, ingrained sense of being the giver.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The truth is that you've got the 
> > > > idea that everyone on Purusha is a sponger and a baby...
> > > 
> > > Not everyone, but certainly this turkey.  :-)
> > 
> > Of course it isn't "everyone". 
> > 
> > But you're close, Barry.  And if you had more contact with the  
> > TMO and all things TM than you have had over the past 20 years  
> > you would know that you aren't too far off the mark.
> 
> I knew enough of these guys during my time with the 
> TMO to know what they're like. The vibe is unmis-
> takable.
> 
> > There are two types of people on purusha:
> > 
> > 1) Those that are living off of trust funds or inheritances.  And 
> > since, thankfully, Purusha is not THAT expensive, if you've 
> > inherited $200,000-300,000 (certainly NOT out of the range of 
what 
> > one would inherit in this day and age in America), you can pay 
> > your monthly cost of Purusha and even have a little "tuck" money 
> > budgeted for candy bars and new socks when you can go to town 
> > once a month.
> 
> Nothing wrong with this, if what you want out of life
> is to sit in a room with your eyes closed most of your
> life. At least they're paying for it themselves.
> 
> > 2) Those that don't have trust funds or inheritances.  And they 
> > are the stereotypical "turkey" that you describe above.  
> 
> Well, you don't really have to look very far to find
> the MODEL for this behavior, do you?
> 
> I mean, what could be clearer?  It's Maharishi himself.
> The guy has turned begging and just assuming that other 
> people should pay for his life into an artform.  He's 
> become a billionaire by doing this.
>  
> > AND, Barry, if, 
> > like I said, you were closer to the TMO all these years, you 
would 
> > know from first-hand experience that this is so because you would 
> > be solicited every other month from one or another Purusha asking 
> > you to help them meet their monthly Purusha cost. 
> 
> The thing that's fascinating to me is the "trickle-
> down craziness" involved with this. It's not just a 
> case of some lazy fucks realizing that there is an
> easy way to avoid working, and that it's called 
> begging. That's just one side of the phenomenon and
> of the conditioning.
> 
> The other side of the conditioning is seen in the
> *sponsors*, the people who have been taught that 
> there is some *benefit* to themselves that accrues
> when they pay so that these guys and gals never have 
> to work.  It's a remarkably symbiotic relationship; 
> one side of the equation couldn't exist without 
> the other. 
> 
> I know that a lot of people here and in spiritual
> trips in general just assume that this is all a given,
> and that it's always worked this way -- people who
> have chosen a full-time spiritual "career" being 
> supported by those who have money and have chosen
> a more householder path.  I'm challenging the very
> *idea* because I really believe that it's a *bad*
> idea, and that most of the problems that one can
> find in *any* spiritual tradition spring from this
> assumption, and from this practice. Historically,
> the spiritual traditions in which the monks or 
> clergy pay their own way in life, and are *not*
> supported by the "rank and file" members of the
> organization, seem to me to be much cleaner and
> spiritually healthier.
> 
> Just *think* about it for a moment -- it's one of
> the biggest scams in human history. In almost every
> era and in every tradition, all that you had to do
> to avoid getting a job like everybody else was to
> claim to be "spiritual" and get other people to pay
> so that you could be "spiritual" full time.  I'm 
> open to the possibility that many of these full-time
> teachers might have done a few nice things for the
> world, but when you look at it objectively, it's
> really quite amazing that no one really challenges
> the status quo of this whole scene and questions
> it.  The meme of the rank-and-file rabble paying
> for the lives of the spiritual elite is that 
> taken for granted, that ingrained in the collective
> consciousness.
>






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