I don't think enlightenment, which can be experienced by all, and is not necessarilly permanent, since everything is temporary until proved otherwise bestows anything other than bliss. However, a blissful person can enjoy the use of their minds in a way that others who are suffering cannot. Therefore they can summon greater power of thought, and assume greater ability to create effects.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > Personally, I tend to think that enlightenment confers inner > > contentment complete with a sense of wonder, sense of purpose and > > more. But on the strength of what I can gather, I am unconvinced > that > > it necessarilly removes the possibility of the enlightened one > living > > his/her enlightenment blissfully ignorant about a great many > things, > > about, ignorant about the truth of the planet's history or the > story > > of creation, ignorant whether this or that storybook figure > actually > > existed or not. Perhaps, and this is dangerous territory perhaps, > but > > just perhaps, enlightenment is no more but no less than living a > > wonderfully drugless high, and does not necessarilly confer any > > higher perceptions beyond those which that individual personality > > can rise to. > > Personally, I wouldn't consider the truth of the > planet's history or the other items you mention as > "higher perceptions" in the sense of the knowledge > that is said to be structured in consciousness. > > I do suspect the individual personality imposes > some limitations on what can be known, but exactly > how those limitations manifest in the enlightened > person is a different and more complicated question, > I think. > > I tend to favor the notion that at least in terms of > relative knowledge, enlightenment confers access on > a "need to know" basis, which would perhaps be determined > on the basis of karma, individual and group or "mass." > In other words, it would be appropriate to the situation. > > Maybe this is also in some sense the case with the > knowledge structured in consciousness, "higher" > knowledge, whatever that may involve. Or maybe full > higher knowledge is accessible to all who are fully > enlightened, but the apparent differences have to do > with individual personality variations in how that > knowledge is understood and expressed intellectually. > > In other words, that there are differences in what > purportedly enlightened individuals believe and > teach--especially in terms of the nature and mechanics > of consciousness--doesn't seem to me *necessarily* to > preclude the possibility that enlightenment does > confer "higher knowledge." > > On the other hand, I'm not at all sure that the answer > to any of this is automatically conferred by > enlightenment. > > I gather you prefer not to comment on this: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand Paul Mason" > > > > > <premanandpaul@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I have a similar take on this, > > > > > > > > > > But you said you thought Guru Dev's take was "entirely > > > > > contrary" to that of MMY. I was suggesting it wasn't > > > > > that different. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
