--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Your recollection is incorrect. I don't *know* that > > > > the experiences (of levitation, someone turning > > > > invisible, etc.) would have been captured on video > > > > or in a photograph. > > > > > > > > > Most of us wouldn't find that to be "real" in the > > > > > usual sense of hte word. > > > > > > > > "Most of us" can go suck eggs. What others believe > > > > or don't believe is real doesn't affect me in any way. :-) > > > > > > The question is, does "Barry really saw X" translate > > > into "X is real"? > > > > Who ever claimed that it does? > > > > Who *cares* if it does? > > > > If it was real *for me* that is the *most* I can say. > > That's enough. I have no interest in convincing > > people that my reality should be theirs. > > > > You seem to. You seem obsessed with finding some > > objective definition of "reality." > > Oh, Barry, Lawson's right. You really *are* stupid. > Or you *get* stupid, or *play* stupid, at times, > apparently because it gives you another opportunity > for a putdown. > > What I was suggesting, of course, is exactly the > opposite: that *all* "reality" is subjective. > >
When something is so real that its mutually subjective to the point that "objective" things like video cameras and the like record the same event, we usually call it "really real." If something is truely multi-personality pantheistic solipicisticaly real, our mutually agreed upon objective devices will measure it. Otherwise, it's real only to a relatively small subset of us. > > > > So I guess > > becoming comfortable with your own experience > > as defining your own reality wouldn't be enough > > for you. Cool, I guess, but see below: > > > > > > What you should ponder is how *you* would react if > > > > you had witnessed such phenomena -- often -- and > > > > yet had no objective evidence of their existence. > > > > > > > > Would you have the balls to believe your own exper- > > > > ience or would you doubt, and continue to doubt > > > > until "outside verification" made it *safe* for > > > > you to believe your own experience. > > > > > > > > If the latter, I would suggest that you're gonna > > > > have a long, long road to enlightenment. IMO, one > > > > of the things you have to do to realize it is learn > > > > to trust yourself. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
