--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Denial is a wonderful thing.



I thought it was a river in Egypt...





> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff 
<no_reply@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sure, in fact the TMO bought large quantities of books 
at 
> > the 
> > > > right 
> > > > > > time to
> > > > > > > get them on the best seller lists, which then created 
a 
> > > > momentum.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Not directly, as far as I know. The best-seller lists 
> > > > > > monitor "institution sales," so to get around that I 
> > suggested to 
> > > > Carla 
> > > > > > Linton and she passed on to Chopra who said it was the 
best 
> > idea 
> > > > he had 
> > > > > > ever heard, to do a well-organized, piece-meal buying 
> > campaign, 
> > > > where 
> > > > > > Chopra supporters would by a handful of books from each 
store 
> > and 
> > > > then 
> > > > > > resell to their friends at exactly the same cost that 
they 
> > paid.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This idea was disseminated unoficially throughout the 
TMO and 
> > > > > > individual supporters of Chopra and there were well 
> > organized, 
> > > > non-
> > > > > > institutional mass-purchases of Chopra's books as they 
came 
> > out. 
> > > > This 
> > > > > > kept the purchases off the institutional-buy radar but 
had 
> > the 
> > > > same 
> > > > > > effect.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So a devious means to pull the wool over peoples eyes was 
used 
> > to
> > > > > promote a technique that promotes "Truth" 
and  "Enlightenment". 
> > > > 
> > > > IT wasn't devious.
> > > 
> > > Yes it was. If not, why not send a letter to the best seller 
list
> > > compilers and state what you were doing. You your self said 
you were
> > > trying to fly under their radar. The "method" was to make it 
appear
> > > something was happening that was not. True of so much TMO. And
> > > politics / governement / PR / advertising. 
> > 
> > Why should they? It was an attempt to prime-the-pump by getting 
> > people who were already going to be buying his book to buy his 
book 
> > sooner. The people weren'ttold to buy lotsof copies and then 
shop for 
> > buyers, but to contact their friends and offer to buy the book 
for 
> > them. It was a way of concentrating the sales that were already 
going 
> > to take place into a shorter period of time.
> > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > > The books were resold to friends. I made it clear, 
> > > > and the letter did also, that the books would be purchased 
FOR 
> > people 
> > > > that would be buying the book anyway. We just bought it for 
them 
> > in 
> > > > very short period of time, as opposed to the trickle-effect 
that 
> > > > casual buyers would have had on his week-over-week sales in 
the 
> > > > initial period when it was released.
> > > 
> > > But you would have resisted a letter sent to the best seller 
list
> > > compilers. Why? You were trying to deceive them. 
> > 
> > I wasn't in charge ofthat. If you want to send such a letter 
now, 
> > describing what I and many others did, feel free and get back to 
us 
> > with how they respond. Please make clear that we were buying 
books 
> > for friends who had said that they already were planning on 
buying 
> > the book.
> > 
> > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > One amongst many such devious and deceptive ploys.
> > > > 
> > > > Not that devious and certainly not illegal,
> > > 
> > > no not illegal,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > unethical or immoral.
> > > 
> > > That's debateable. 
> > 
> > Only in your eyes. Feel free to chat with the owners of 
bookstores or 
> > with the compilers of the best-seller lists over the issue. I 
know 
> > that bookstore owners don't care either way since a saleis a 
sale, 
> > and I'm pretty sure that the scenario I presented, where the 
purchase 
> > was already planned, would satisfy the book-sales list people as 
well.
> > 
> > > 
> > > As I said, 
> > > > > So a devious means to pull the wool over peoples eyes was 
used 
> > to
> > > > > promote a technique that promotes "Truth" 
and  "Enlightenment". 
> > > 
> > > Its an ends justify the means saga. We can be dishonest so we 
can
> > > promote Truth.
> > 
> > Its not dishonest. It was a concerted effort to concentrate 
buying 
> > power of peoplewho were already planning on buyingthe book.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > And 
> > > > how is it deceptive to buy a book or three for friends who 
were 
> > > > already going to buy the book? The only effect that my 
strategy 
> > had 
> > > > was on *timing* of book sales. 
> > > 
> > > Yup. To deceive the best seller list book compilers. Who in 
turn,
> > > innocently deceived their readers - that all these sales were
> > > individuals rushing out to buy the book. 
> > > 
> > 
> > They were sales to people who WERE plannning on buying the book.
> > 
> > > 
> > > We got all the fans to make their 
> > > > purchases inthe first week or so, rather than inthe first 
month 
> > or 
> > > > three.
> > > 
> > > And thats not deceptive? Why not inform the list compilers of 
your
> > > stragegy and let them decide whether to include the sales -- 
if you
> > > had no intention to decieve?
> > >  
> > 
> > Why don'tyou contact them for us and tell us what they say?
> > 
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is there much doubt why it didn't work out?
> > > > >
> > > 
> > > > But it did work out and quite well, on the levelof book 
sales at 
> > > > least. 
> > > 
> > > My reference was to the TMO, World Plan, etc. When "ends 
justify the
> > > means" is employed, when deception and misleading spins are 
used to
> > > promote Truth, its bound to fail.
> > 
> > Paranoid when you were with the TMO, and paranoid now that you 
are no 
> > longer withit, I'm guessing...
> > 
> > > 
> > > >Chopra's booksales were quite brisk for a completely unknown 
> > > > author during that time, and put him squarely in the sights 
of 
> > > > publishers as an up-and-coming writer.
> > > 
> > > And looking back on it, in YOUR view, that was a good thing. 
Chopra
> > > became an established "media darling"?
> > >
> > 
> > It was the stated intent of the TMO to create Chopra's image. 
That 
> > Chopra took the image and did his own thing with it was his 
choice. I 
> > resent him for it, that's how these things work.
> >
>






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