--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > Since everyone's "coming clean" here, I made passes
> > > (mostly successful ones, I might add) at women 
> > > in the TM movement for years, and got away with
> > > it scot-clean. 
> > > 
> > > In my defense, I was young and ruled by testosterone,
> > > not unstressing, and the women were all TM teachers
> > > like myself. They seemed pleased to find another
> > > teacher who wasn't all gaga about celibacy. I was
> > > pleased that they were pleased, and endeavored to
> > > please them even more. End of story.
> > 
> > David, on the other hand, was and is married. I'm sure 
> > it wasn't a very fun thing to talk to one's wife about, 
> > especially with rumors flying around.
> 
> We'll never know. Get over it. 
> 
> There are better things in life to do than get all
> moralistic about Someone Else's Sexual Peccadillos
> (or Peccadildos, if you prefer). Let's face it...
> we're ALL kinky to the max, each in our own ways.
> And that's Ok.
> 
> In my case, it was the mid-70s -- post-Pill, pre-
> AIDS, and a time when pretty much the entire
> culture where I lived centered on Californication.
> Add to that being a very obviously non-celibate
> guy in an organization in which many of the men
> spent more time making moods than they did making
> women, and the bottom line was that I made out like
> a bandit. I don't mean to shock anyone ( too much,
> anyway :-), but there were six-week ATR courses in
> which I slept with seven different women, fellow
> female TM teachers who were all as sexually active 
> as I was. There was a *lot* going on...uh...under 
> the covers of the TM movement in that era.
> 
> It *is* a lot more complicated when one or both of
> the people is married. I never ran into that situation;
> I've always had this thing about not fooling around
> with women who are Otherwise Involved. But it *could* 
> have happened, and I don't know how I would have 
> reacted and acted if it did.
> 
> That said, there *is* also something about David's 
> "unstressing" rap rings true to me. There is some-
> thing that just *happens* when you stand in front
> of a large group of people and have their attention
> focused on you. Many of them, especially if they are
> meditating several hours a day, develop a bad case
> of Fuck The Course Leader Syndrome. I've had it
> aimed at me -- and submitted to it -- many times.
> You can get really *bent* when the attention of
> several dozen or several hundred unstressing 
> meditators is focused on you. You can wind up 
> doing some seriously stupid shit.
> 
> So I join with the others here who have applauded
> David on his reply. Those who pretend that only
> others do stupid shit and who get all moralistic 
> about the stupid things they might have done are, 
> in my opinion, fooling themselves. They've done 
> stupid shit, too. We all have. It goes with the 
> territory of being a human being.

You're lucky someone didn't get over emotional on you and freak out, 
I've seen it and it doesn't do them any good, which is probably why 
they try and keep us apart on courses. In fact it's single sex only 
on courses in Europe from now on. Which puts me off completely.

But no that doesn't shock, you're either meant to be celibate or your 
not and we've all done long courses where we had to "make our own 
entertainment" ;-) For me it's nice to know we are still just human 
after all.

But I did know a guy who was sent home from a six month course on the 
first day after being seen coming out of a girls room, he had been 
helping her in with her luggage!

Perhaps they feared he was "sowing seeds" but a touch too prudish IMO








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