--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
> <marwincornyarmand@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" 
> > <richardhughes103@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
> > > > <markmeredith@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I predict the plan to make vedic city, iowa a pilgrimage
> > > > > center for hindus will be even more successful than MMY's
> > > > > plan to make (doug henning's) vedaland more popular than
> > > > > disneyworld, though not as successful as his plan to make
> > > > > hagelin president.
> > > > 
> > > > A fairly safe prediction. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder whether one of the major factors involved in
> > > > the failure of these ideas is the near-total lack of
> > > > familiarity on the part of Maharishi and the TMO
> > > > higher-ups with the common people they think they are
> > > > appealing to.
> > > > 
> > > > I mean (a question for those of you who might know),
> > > > how long has it *been* since Maharishi met someone
> > > > face to face who does not practice TM and who does
> > > > not have the money to buy their way into his presence?  
> > > > Ten years? Fifteen years? Longer? All that time, as
> > > > far as I know, the *only* people he has interfaced
> > > > with are the Truest of the True Believers, complete
> > > > Yes-men and Yes-women who *share* his disdain for
> > > > and distance from the common people of the planet.
> > > > 
> > > > The *arrogance* of it all is not unlike George W.
> > > > Bush pretending to understand and care about the
> > > > problems of the middle class in America. Bush not
> > > > only knows nothing about them; chances are that
> > > > he hasn't even *talked* with any of them in his
> > > > entire life. He's *famous* for wanting to be
> > > > surrounded only by people of his "class."
> > > > 
> > > > These projects are meant to appeal to Maharishi's
> > > > *fantasies* of what people are like and what they
> > > > want, not what people are really like and what
> > > > they want. No wonder they don't work. As Jimi
> > > > Hendrix once sang:
> > > > 
> > > > And so castles made of sand
> > > > slip into the sea, eventually
> > > >
> > > 
> > > When I was on the Dubrovnik Peace Project, which ran 1999/2000, 
> we 
> > > were visited by a movement PR guy raising money for Doug 
Hennings 
> > > veda land.
> > > 
> > > He gave us a presentation about floating buildings, 
budget&Profit 
> > > forecasts and some focus group/bullsh*t and told us the minimum 
> > > investment was $50,000. It was a perticularly depressing night 
> > with 
> > > talk mostly of money and investments only and nothing even 
> > remotelty 
> > > spiritual.
> > > 
> > > We then had a Q&A session in which people asked how the project 
> > was 
> > > going (Very well) How Doug was and what he's been up to 
(working 
> > hard 
> > > and totally devoted to veda land)
> > > 
> > > The course leaders pointed out who the richest CP's were and he 
> > spent 
> > > a few days courting them before flying home. 1st class of 
course.
> > > 
> > > Imagine our surpise when Doug Henning died the very next week 
and 
> > we 
> > > found out had been seriously ill for some time. I mean, what a 
> > > cynical exercise. I wish I could remember the PR guys name, 
what 
> a 
> > > soul-less prick. Age of Enlightenment behaviour? I think not.
> > > 
> > > That might have been when I first started questioning the way 
> > things 
> > > are run, the next was Maharishi's press conference with 
Slobodan 
> > > Milosovic (the butcher of Belgrade) about what a wronged man he 
> > is. 
> > > But thats another story!
> > > 
> > > I wonder if anyone ever got a refund.
> > 
> > No way. We did collect a lot of money in Norway many years ago to 
> > one of the numerous projects in Norway - which never came 
through. 
> I 
> > asked the National Leader to pay the money back to the donators - 
> > because I thought about the future, if we had to ask for money to 
> > another project. 
> > The answer was No. The result was that the donations dried out -. 
> > The money and the TMO is very disappointing and dishonest.
> > Ingegerd
> > >
> >
> At least you tried, what a shame they can't sort that out it would 
> inspire a bit of confidence at least.
>

In the US at least, people have to request their money be refunded. 
NPO's don't automatically refund donations, AFAIK.






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