--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<fairfieldlife@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > on 2/28/06 10:32 AM, wmurphy77 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > YOu would be correct if you were talking about the Gita where 
> MMY
> > > > talks about many 'births' to realize Being, that is death to
> > > > materiality and Resurrection in Spirit and back being ONE 
> birth, but
> > > > this is NOT what Charlie was suggesting.  BillyG.
> > > 
> > > And who's to say Charlie knew what he was talking about? Nice 
> guy and 
> > all
> > > that, but anyone can regurgitate what they've read in esoteric 
> books.
> > 
> > Like I said Rick....7 lifetimes is the best *estimate* I've ever 
> heard 
> > anyone give for the amount of time it will take for the average 
> bear to 
> > reach CC...
> > 
> > per, MMY's Gita, one has to be able to submerge into Spirit (TC) 
> fully 
> > before the cloth in the yellow dye analogy really takes full 
> effect, 
> > then indeed CC is not far away.
> >
> In my experience, TM seekers don't have a problem with fully 
> submerging into TC, rather it is how to translate that 
transcendence 
> into action, without over intellectualizing it, that creates 
> resistance to fully integrating TC.

I'll have to say, Jim, unless you've experienced SAT-Chit-Ananda you 
haven't been transcending fully to Samadhi, that is, Savikalpa 
Samadhi as MMY describes it in the Gita......this is NOT, I repeat 
NOT something you EVER forget.  If you think you have NO thoughts and 
NO mantra, but have NO bliss....you are NOT in Samadhi as MMY 
describes it!





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