--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 3/2/06 1:38 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Well let's not take these two items out of context. The nail story of > > Vimalananda refers to a person who claimed the ability to be in a certain type > > of samadhi. The fact that he did experience pain in that style of samadhi only > > means he was not really in that style of samadhi. It really says little about > > enlightenment per se. > > > > The lack of casting of the shadow describes a certain aspect of unity, but is > > only really relevant in a style of enlightenment where the karmic supports for > > the physical body are transforming. And it's extremely rare, let alone > > witnessed. Nonetheless it's an occurrence I like to mention when britches get > > too many sizes too big. > > > So is there a state which you would feel comfortable labeling > ³enlightenment² which doesn¹t necessarily include these extraordinary states > and abilities, and which normal folks might attain after 30-40 years of > regular spiritual practice? >
As far as I can tell, Vaj is misinterpretting/over-interpretting some text taht talks about how even a nail driven into one's hand won't takethem out of samadhi. But that's the definition of CC. Screaming isn't relevant to witnessing. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
