--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <anonyff@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > > <tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlist@> wrote: > > > > > > judy writes: snipped > > > And if he didn't, was it because the state of > > > enlightenment makes everything seem easy and simple > > > *when it really isn't*? Is it possible that the > > > "easy and simple" sense applies on some level other > > > than the practical one of achieving a goal, but > > > that the person who is enlightened may incorrectly > > > think it applies to achieving the goal? > > > > > > TomT: > > > The easy and simple sense applies only to the awake one. What ever > > > comes or goes is in the relative. What ever they attempt is easy and > > > simple as it just flows. How it unfolds is not revelant. One is only > > > in control of ones action never the fruit. One is never a failure > > > since one attempted to do what the next obvious thing to do seemed > > > apparent. Once the thought appears in the awareness the awake one has > > > the entire range of the act in the relative world available in their > > > awareness at the exact instance of the thought. That is why it appears > > > that an awake one has no desires. > > > > I'm sorry, with all due respect I'm going to take great exception to > > this answer and to all answers that seem to reduce the > > life/mindset/emotional state of the "awake ones" to these kinds of pat > > answers. > > > > Years ago, when channeling was in, and everyone was running first to > > see Ron Scolastico, then everyone was channeling, these are the kinds > > of answers I used to hear all the time-everyone sounded the f***ing > > same in the way they were talking about things. You could always tell > > a) when someone had been to Ron Scolastico b) had become a so- called > > channeler. > > > > Personally, I think there are as many forms of enlightenment as there > > are people, I think that people still get angry, hungrly, lonely, > > tired, irritable, sick, and that they act just as spontaneously as > > anyone/everyone else and that all this constant intellectualizing is a > > form of severe mental masturbation. > > > > What ever happened to meditate and act? > > > > Anonyff > > Yes Anonyff there is some sense of limitation here just as you describe. Half digested Tolle > sprinkled with some Byron Katy and some Ramana on the side served fast food style. > Repeat as necessary. > > It's givving me heartburn, it sure ain't shaktipat. > Ha-Ha-HA! Yeah, believe what HE says! All is Lost! Kali's lap dog returns!!! Waking State Incarnate!
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