--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Mar 9, 2006, at 5:03 PM, authfriend wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 2:22 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> I genuinely want to know which techniques out there are
> > effortless
> > > >>> and do not require concentration.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> You must've missed the "TM is not effortless" thread here
> > sometime
> > > >> ago. TM is *easy* but not truly effortless.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > BS. No effort is required to do TM. Some effort mayhappen on
> > > > occasssion, and obsessing about how much or how little, if 
any, is
> > > > detrimental, but no effort is required.
> > > >
> > > > And there are many *easy*
> > > >
> > > >> meditation methods out there and there are *effortless* 
forms of
> > > >> meditation but they are not necessarily *easy* to do 
correctly.
> > > >>
> > > >> It seems like we're mincing words when we talk about this, 
but
> > > >>
> > > > styles
> > > >
> > > >> of meditation which are truly effortless are typically forms 
of
> > non-
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> meditation. And there is a big difference.
> > > >>
> > > >> Even M. admitted this at Estes Park--that TM required some
> > > >> effort.
> > > >
> > > > So what did he say exactly?
> > >
> > > It wasn't me who responded.
> >
> > Yes, it was, Vaj, unless someone is posting under
> > your name.
> 
> No, it was Rick--he just reposted it.

No, it was you, Vaj.  See message #90430.







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