--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> wrote: > > > > The really problematic dimension of suffering is not personal (if one > > can indeed become "detached" from internal desire or aversion) - it > > is interpersonal. Try being detatched whilst your loved ones are > > being tortured... > > > **** > It is not about being emotionally detached. It is about embracing all > the awful emotions the situation arises, and by no way trying to > diminish the horror of the situation. > This is much easier to accomplish when the `I ` is firmly established > on a ground where it does not anymore identify with these emotions. > Not identifying does not mean not feeling intensely. It means that you > can keep yourself separate from the emotions. It is a situation where > you have emotions in your system, body and mind. You are not the > emotions, you have them, you witness them and simultaneously observe > and feel them very intensely. > > I went through this kind of torture experience when my father was > very sick and he was given wrong kind of medication. For a month he > was in a catatonic state, very stiff, not capable of speaking. He > could only scream for help, which he did whenever he had enough energy > for screaming. And he was full of panic and fear and pain, which they > tried to medicate down, but actually made only worse. He deep inside > himself knew this and wanted away from the hospital, but couldn't > express himself. And even if he had been, they wouldn't have let him > go. It was awful to sit in the hospital at his bedside and be with him > in his enormous suffering. Once when I went to the hospital, my > husband said to me:"You look like you were going to a beheading." I > did not understand at that time the medication caused this torture to > my father. After a month they moved him to the University Hospital and > there they immediately realized it was the medication that caused his > suffering. They stopped the medication and after one week he was much > better, and after two weeks again at home. > > Irmeli >
**** One emotion there is however that I don't easily experience and that is getting hurt of something someone says to me. Often I may not even observe the insult, or if I observe I may react by getting furious and try to express why I felt the person's behaviour was inconsiderate or stupid. Irmeli ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
