--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, defenders_of_bhakti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I think there is a big confusion of what evolution actually means.
> Here some biological definitions:
> 
> Evolution: The long-term process through which a population of
> organisms accumulates genetic changes that enable its members to
> successfully adapt to environmental conditions and to better exploit
> food resources.
> www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEPC/WWC/1994/glossary.html
> 
> The change in life over time by adaptation, variation,
> over-reproduction, and differential survival/reproduction, a process
> referred to by Charles Darwin and Alfred Wallace as natural selection.
> http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/BioBookglossE.html
> 
> In this sense evolution is not the development to a certain
> pre-existent goal, but rather the successful adaptaion to a given
> environment by a certain organism. Thhis is what trial and error and
> natural selection is all about. This makes the idea of an evolving
> Creator-God fairly upsurd: How could a Creator adapt to an
> environment, he has created himself? It is even more absurd if you
> assume an all-knowing God going through trial and error. Pretty much
> trial and error can be done by machines, and doesn't require a creator
> at all. That is why evolution, the theory of natural selection is so
> much opposed by the creationists.
> 
> Now one can of course try to transfer the idea of evolution to a sort
> of teleological argument, and that is what many New Agers do. There is
> a goal, a pre-existent ideal to which nature develops. But if God
> himself develops, who established the ideal, was it already there or
> did he create it? And if he created the ideal, why didn't s/he create
> the ideal creation right away?
> 
> I think one gets into a big muddle if one tries to combine
> evolutionary theories which really don't need any God (like trial and
> error) with creationist ideas. Why should a God evolve, unless he has
> fallen, and is now involved in his own creation? Of course one could
> argue, we are all God, and we are all evolving to finally realize this
> potential of ours.
> 
> Otherwise its a really absurd idea, with the sort of populistic
> appeal, the same as that we are all co-creators. It just makes some
> people feel more important.
> +++ Haven't you observed that you do some creating yourself?  N.






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