--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> [...]
> > > Except, of course, I'm only talking about TM.
> > 
> > So? You have a *theory* as to what constitutes an 
> > effective meditation session. that *theory* just 
> > "happens" to be the same one that was TOLD to you 
> > by your TM teachers. Vaj has a different theory. 
> > You tried to imply that this means he "never really 
> > learned TM."
> > 
> > You really *don't* GET this, do you?
> 
> I don't think YOU "get" it: when a technique is meant 
> to be easy, innocent, etc., theories that portray one 
> set of experiences as being better than another set, 
> detract from the *innocence* of the technique. 

ONLY if one ACTS on those theories. Otherwise,
they're just theories.

Your position seems to be that a person who
believes as we do has NO CHOICE but to act
on them. And your further theory seems to
be that a TMer *has* to believe all the dogma
and theory that was taught to them about TM
to be "really" practicing TM. They don't.

> That doesn't say anything about the effectivness of the 
> technique, though of course *I* believe that the innocent 
> technique IS more effective than the non-innocent one.

I have NO PROBLEM with you believing this.

> However, its hard to argue (though you and Vaj seem to) 
> that one can have a theory of TM divorced from the 
> innocence of TM.

We seem to have the ability to believe something 
is true and not necessarily act upon it. T'would
seem that you don't believe that this is possible.








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