--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > > > For the record, my experience is that the realization > > > > > that I was off on a thought is enough to evoke the mantra; > > > > > there's no intervening intention to think it. > > > > > > > > My own belief is that this is ALWAYS the case, but we may not > be > > > > aware of it, at least at first, due to our inexperience with > > > > subtler states of the thinking process. > > > > > > That's *exactly* what I think. > > > > To elaborate a bit: I don't think one ever "receives" > > a mantra (at least a bija mantra of the kind TM uses). > > I think the bija mantras are something like resonant > > frequencies of the "sound" of paying attention (or the > > "process of observation"), which are always present on > > subtle levels of the mind; and that one's attention is > > called to one of these frequencies on the gross level > > of speech by the teacher when one is initiated. > > > > To put one's attention on the mantra is thus, in effect, > > to pay attention *to the paying of attention*. Or to > > put it another way, one is observing the process of > > observation itself; the process of observation becomes > > the object of observation. > > Interesting. Devata becoming Chhandas... Which is part of the > definition of samadhi.
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