anon_astute: well lucky you, you are so astute... you are 100% sure the elite are not penny-pinching ...And you are 100% certain.. etc etc...
No I don't expect either of us are 100% sure of anything. It's my opinion, and it's your opinion. That's good enough for me. I don't think though the Rajas represent a good focus group. A political party, for instance, would want a focus group representing the spectrum of the population, not a group composed of the most generous party supporters... No I wasn't there "in the planning sessions when this unfolded?" But it's not a minority who think that "the whole unfolding of the TMO and its activities seems uninformed, mindless and counterproductive". That is just observable "outcome". But clearly you are more hopeful about the TMO and I have no interest in undermining your positivity and trust; But I just need an outlet for my own sense of disappointment. I used to be positive & trusting myself.. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <claudiouk@> wrote: > > > > Elites/rich people are typically penny pinchers. They go out of > > their way to save the odd dollar. > > Uh huh. Thats why they shop at Nordstroms and stay at $500 / night > hotels. > > I am not saying they are not looking of a "deal" but its of theorder > of saving 15% on a case of $150/bottle Merlot. > > > They > > want also the "badges" of the elite - designer labels etc to > > demonstrate that money is no object when it comes to show their > > appreciation of "quality" and celebrate their "belonging" to a > > priviledged group. > > Um, but they penny pinch when doing so, right? > > > The trouble, for MMY, is that whilst TM may > > represent "quality" so do other techniques such as Buddhist ones, > > now also boasting scientific validation; moreover there is a global > > traditional "culture" of spirituality that is clearly at odds with > > the materialism of the TMO, which therefore makes it suspect. And as > > others have pointed out, as soon as anyone investigates the TMO's > > public image there are not one but a huge number of things that are > > off-putting. The TMO is just not "cool", it's downright embarassing. > > And you are 100% certain this will be the case in ten years, when the > new wave of Lynch (and other) funded research MAY be published in > premier journals, gorgeous real good-vibe peace palaces MAY be in > every wealthy neighborhood, and neo-TM teachers MAY be from "elite" > families, socialy connected and adept, and dripping with ojas and > peacefulness, doing program 6-8 hours a day? > > > If attracting the elite was the objective then it would have made > > sense to get elite advice on how to do this. > > Um, getting several hundred people willing to pay one million seems > like a darn good focus group to me. > > > The reason so many of > > us are baffled, > > the non-elites, right? > > > I think, is that the whole unfolding of the TMO and > > its activities seems uninformed, mindless and counterproductive. > > And you have been there in the planning sessions when this unfolded? > You are 100% certain there is no substance to M.'s 50-100 years plans > for the org? > > > The > > only thing that makes any overall sense > > sense to to you, right? Not sense in an objective sense,right? > > > is the "money-grabbing > > tunnel-vision" interpretation; > > And yours is NOT a tunnel-vision" interpretation? > > > and a systematic avoidance of putting > > the large pundit groups effect to the test (MMY could have done it > > with his own resources decades ago). > > You know this as 100% certain, and you know all of the tradeoffs and > factors involved inthe decision? Glad to see TM as made you so > arrogance-free. > > >There is too much ignorance and > > denigration of what good already exists around > > around this post? > > > - beautiful buildings > > and cities, democratic principles, human rights, musical and visual > > sophistication, sublime spiritual icons. > > > In their place wooden, > > ridiculous, robotic figures are exaulted as infallible authority > > figures > > You know the rajas personally? Now? I saw a video of Raja Felix. He > did a good job, mannerism wise -- not wooden at all. Bright, corgial, > humerous, relaxed. And his wife was quite beautiful,graceful, and down > to earth. > > > > who seem as unspiritual > > again, you hang with the rajas and have a basis for a cogent opinion? > > >This doesn't seem a good return on such personal investment for > > anyone, let alone an "elite"! > > Well, lucky for you, you are not an elite and won't have to make that > decisions. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
