--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > [...]
> > > Thanks, Lawson, very interesting stuff.  I learned
> > > something new.
> > >
> > 
> > If you want to see what a REAL contact juggler looks like, check 
> this 
> > guy out. He pretty much perfected the art. He and Penn Jillette of 
> > Penn & Teller were street magicians back when they were kids:
> > 
> > http://www.michaelmoschen.com/press.html
> 
> Aah, all his videos are Macromedia Flash, which I haven't
> installed.  Later, maybe.
> 

I'll see if I can find some QT movies or av's. He's quite a sight. PBS used to 
use one of his 
videos for fund-raising I think.

> > If you want the background to the parody video, here's the original 
> > webiste:
> > 
> > http://www.jasongarfield.com/pennradio.html
> > 
> > Personally, I think he's a bit harsh in his evaluation of Chris 
> > Bliss, but given the difference between 5-ball juggling, and 3-ball 
> > juggling, I can understand the frustration with everyone oohing 
> > over the three-ball routine and ignoring the top jugglers who have 
> > spent decades working on the craft.
> 
> He's quite the crusader, isn't he?

He's more than a bit arrogant, I agree. He's also the world champion from 2004, 
which is 
more than a bit impressive.

> 
> I have the sense that he may be missing what it is
> about juggling that thrills the audience.  It's that
> you can't believe what you're seeing.  The thing is,
> there aren't any *gradations* beyond that.  It's
> either, Oh, I could do that if I worked at it, or,
> Oh, my God, that's *impossible*, *nobody* can do
> what he's doing!
> 
> And once you get beyond the "I could do that" level
> to the "Nobody can do that" level, the layperson
> isn't going to be any more impressed by the world's
> best juggler than by Chris Bliss.  That's as impressed
> as s/he can *get*.
> 
> If Chris Bliss were swaggering around claiming to be
> the world's best juggler, that would warrant Garfield's
> scorn, but if he isn't, tough beans.  World-class
> jugglers need to realize they're only working to impress
> other jugglers.  It's just the nature of the beast.
> 
> Or so it seems to me.
>

I think you're right. In _Stranger in a Strange Land_, Valentine Michael puts 
on a REAL 
magic show in a carnival, but everyone yawns because he doesnt know how to 
relate to the 
audience. I once saw Doug Henning use a $50 magic trick and wow an audience for 
15 
minutes with his patter at one of the World Peace Assemblies. The difference 
between a 
showman and an "artiste" I guess though Doug was an artiste also.







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