--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:12 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.
> > >
> > >
> > > See his description of CC and TM at:
> > >
> > > http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?
> > > option=com_content&task=view&id=2288
> > >
> >
> >
> > Odd since CC is always mentioned during the 3-nights checking, that he
> > hadn't heard that it was present during deep sleep. In fact, most  
> > TMers
> > first report witnessing sleep BEFORE they report witnessing waking
> > state. Such was MY experience, and many others, IIRC.
> 
> There are no rules, everyone is different. The only thing that  
> distinguishes it from waking state is simply the odd feeling of being  
> awake when you thought you should be asleep--but then TM witnessing  
> or CC is not the same as lineal CC--at least according to Dr. Pete.
>

Dr, Pete?

And there's definite physiological differences. Just got back from a lecture by 
Fred Travis.







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