--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Richard J. Williams wrote:
> 
> >markmeredith wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Most every Indian spiritual group I've investigated uses some 
> >>of the bija mantras - not necessarily in an eye-closed effortless
> >>meditation practice, but they seem to be very commonly known.  
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >So, it's a common practice all over India - Mr. Perino was 
mistaken.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>As discussed here recently, early TMers report they weren't 
given 
> >>bij mantras, but "Ram".
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >Maybe so, but I'm TM meditator #212 in the USA, according to 
Beaulah
> >Smith, and I never got a 'Ram' bija mantra. From what I've read, 
the
> >very first TM meditator in India, a certain Mr. Raya, recieved the
> >same bija I recieved in 1965, that would be ten years after the
> >founding of the SRM by Marshy. 
> >
> >  
> >
> It is alleged that Maharishi when he was first teaching used 
the "Ram" 
> mantra.   Bhagavan Das in his book "It's Here Now (Are You?)" 
claims he 
> was given the Ram mantra by Maharishi when he met shortly after 
arriving 
> in India.  Bhagavan Das was the "young American" in India that Ram 
Das 
> wrote about in "Be Here Now."  "Ram" is considered a shanti 
mantra.  So 
> by the time you learned the techniques may well have changed as 
MMY 
> probably felt he needed a system for his teachers.
>

In '75 a Christian Fundamentalist was in Fairfield who claimed TM 
was evil had been initiated in the early or mid '60s (I can't 
remember exactly) and he also said that that was the mantra he was 
given.  He said this at a town meeting where he spoke from a dias 
that also included Johnathan Shear.  When he said his mantra, Shear 
said to him: "Are you sure that's the mantra you got?  That doesn't 
sound right!"  And the Fundie angrily responded: "Well, that's the 
one they gave me!"

I sorta got the impression that the Fundie felt that in getting such 
a "pedestrian" and "common" mantra that maybe he was ripped off.







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