--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard J. Williams wrote: > > >markmeredith wrote: > > > > > >>Most every Indian spiritual group I've investigated uses some > >>of the bija mantras - not necessarily in an eye-closed effortless > >>meditation practice, but they seem to be very commonly known. > >> > >> > >> > >So, it's a common practice all over India - Mr. Perino was mistaken. > > > > > > > >>As discussed here recently, early TMers report they weren't given > >>bij mantras, but "Ram". > >> > >> > >> > >Maybe so, but I'm TM meditator #212 in the USA, according to Beaulah > >Smith, and I never got a 'Ram' bija mantra. From what I've read, the > >very first TM meditator in India, a certain Mr. Raya, recieved the > >same bija I recieved in 1965, that would be ten years after the > >founding of the SRM by Marshy. > > > > > > > It is alleged that Maharishi when he was first teaching used the "Ram" > mantra. Bhagavan Das in his book "It's Here Now (Are You?)" claims he > was given the Ram mantra by Maharishi when he met shortly after arriving > in India. Bhagavan Das was the "young American" in India that Ram Das > wrote about in "Be Here Now." "Ram" is considered a shanti mantra. So > by the time you learned the techniques may well have changed as MMY > probably felt he needed a system for his teachers. >
In '75 a Christian Fundamentalist was in Fairfield who claimed TM was evil had been initiated in the early or mid '60s (I can't remember exactly) and he also said that that was the mantra he was given. He said this at a town meeting where he spoke from a dias that also included Johnathan Shear. When he said his mantra, Shear said to him: "Are you sure that's the mantra you got? That doesn't sound right!" And the Fundie angrily responded: "Well, that's the one they gave me!" I sorta got the impression that the Fundie felt that in getting such a "pedestrian" and "common" mantra that maybe he was ripped off. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/