--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 3:32 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > Paraphrasing what the official stance in the TMO is about > > claiming > > > > > enlightenment: > > > > > > > > > > People may say "liar" and be turned off to TM because they > > believe you > > > > > are lying. > > > > > > > > > > People may look at you and say "Who wants to be like that?" and > > stop > > > > > meditating because they think everyone must behave exactly the > > same > > > > > when they're enlightened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People may look at you and say "I want to be like that" and try > > to > > > > > behave like you rather than wanting to be themselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the TMO's perspective, its a no-win situation to have > > people > > > > > claiming enlightenment "in the wild." Now, in anonymous > > laboratory > > > > > conditions, where people are being examined for physiological > > > > > correlates of their claims, this doesn't apply, at least in my > > mind > > > > > and > > > > > theminds of the researchers. > > > > > > > > > > > > And this official response is quoted where? A recent press > > release? > > > > Dome announcement? > > > > > > In 39 years (OMG) I have never heard these points cited as official > > > policy in the movement. They sound more like some local teacher > > > putting together some advanced lecture points -- based on his > > > conjecture and logic, not official TMO statements. > > > > > > > Huh. I recall (I thought) hearing it over and over again in the 70's > > but maybe I'm misremembering... > > Or maybe it was after I left full time teaching in the late 70's. >
I heard it I thought first time in the early/mid-70's, but its been 30+ years. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/