On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sparaig wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:22 AM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > > It does not advocate "control" but leaves it to the individual
> to
> > > > find a medium between attention and total relaxation. When this
> is
> > > > not done properly you get problems like those often seen in TM:
> > > > falling asleep and slouching, bad asana or posture--see the old
> > > > thread here on "torpor" during TM practice and the numerous
> reports
> > > > of sleeping during TM. For a good example of bad vs. good
> posture
> > > see
> > > > the CBS sunday morning video recently which showed slouching
> TMer's
> > > > and then a group of mindfulness meditators in excellent
> posture. If
> > > > you talk to experienced meditators who observe TMers, one of the
> > > > common observations is that TMers "don't know how to sit". And
> it
> > > > causes problems, particularly with excessive thoughts.
> > >
> > > Or perhaps this is all projection on your part...
> >
> > Actually it's the direct experience of many TMers.
> >
> > There are typically two prerequisites for mantra-diksha: one is
> > posture, the other is correct breathing. What you find when this
> is
> > ignored is problems arise which could have been prevented if you
> are
> > just taught the proper way in the first place. But that's what
> > happens when the purity of the tradition is distorted, a common
> > feature of some McMeditation techniques.
>
> Or perhaps TM is pure and yours isn't..

Actually I was thinking of the Shankaracharya and Patanjali  
traditions...yeah maybe Patanjali got it all wrong...


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