wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was also wondering what exactly was so spiritually
> > > transformative about observing levitation- I mean if
> > > it really happened.
> >
> > Finally, a point worth dealing with.
> >
> > It's because it makes you deal with your own
> > perceptions and analyze them in a way that most
> > people never have to or get to.
> >
> > Let's say you see something like levitation,
> > and no one else is around. But you saw it.
> > NOW you've got something interesting going
> > on for you that you didn't have the day before.
> > You have an experience that you can NEVER, in
> > any circumstance, convince others that it
> > happened, or was true. It's subjective. If a
> > video camera had been there at the time you
> > saw it, it might have recorded what you saw
> > and it might not. You'll never know.
> >
> > All you know is that you saw what you saw.
> >
> > Now you get to deal with that, and decide
> > whether to trust your own experience or not.
> > That's a remarkable gift, in my opinion.
> > Most people don't ever get to deal with it,
> > certainly not those whose closest relationship
> > to paranormal phenomenona is reading about them.
> >
> > Having such an experience doesn't make you any
> > better than anyone else. Having to DEAL WITH
> > having had such an experience, IMO, makes one
> > a bit more interesting. Those are the kinds of
> > people I'm looking for to have conversations
> > with.
> >
> > There are a few people here on FFL who have
> > had such subjective experiences, whether it be
> > of odd phenomena or their own subjective exper-
> > iences of higher states of consciousness. I like
> > dealing with them *because* I can identify with
> > the changes that their subjective experiences and
> > learning to trust them have put them through.
> >
> > The rest of the people strike me as pretty boring,
> > actually. I mean, LOOK at them! THEIR approach to
> > levitation and such things is that they want it
> > to be a scientific, measurable phenomenon so that
> > there is NO challenge to them when they finally
> > observe it -- it'll be just like everything else
> > in their lives. Fuckin' wimps, if you ask me... :-)
>
> And just as a quick followup, I probably won't
> be around here that much longer anyway, because
> the wimps seem to have succeeded in silencing
> most of the interesting people.
>
> You'll notice that most of the people who *have*
> had interesting experiences of higher states of
> consciousness or of extraordinary phenomena
> rarely, if ever, talk about them any more. Jim's
> about the only one who dares to brave the boring,
> terrified turd-throwers any more. Rory's silent,
> Tom's mainly silent, and a few people have left
> altogether.
>
> The bottom line, as I see it, is that the wimps
> have WON, *especially* after the migration of a
> couple of compulsive-poster wimps from alt.m.t.
> Those two, together with anon_couscous and a
> few others who don't even have the balls to use
> their own names here, have made Fairfield Life
> a distinctly UNFRIENDLY environment in which to
> talk about one's own spiritual experiences.
>
> In other words, they've turned it into the TM
> movement.
>
> What's to stick around for?
>
Judy may want to save this message for future reference for when
Barry DOES stick around for another 2,000 posts...
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