>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > However eventually this was supplanted with the idea that
> > consciousness *was* the unified field--and thus the infamous
> > Hagelin article where he gave up his own expert view (that
> > consciousness was *not* the unified field)
>
> Documentation, please, that this was indeed his view.
>
> Remember that he came to MIU in the first place because
> his expert view was that consciousness *was* the unified
> field.
Thats not a particularly good description of what I observed.
Mel Melvin was the in-house physisict, from Temple University -- on a
one year leave/sebatical, during first year Mallorca, Dec70-Jun71. And
As I believe Mel may have been with him during the summer courses in
71. Mel discussed physics extensively and made some rough parallels to
TM and Consciousness, but it was all pretty exploratory as I recall.
And this was pre-SCI.
By Fuiggi Mar-June 72, I beleive Domash was there, as were a number
of the other original MIU faculty. In 72 he was looking at parallels
of physics to SCI and writing stuff for the MIU catalog. And supplying
stuff for that large set of slick oversized posters developed by the
new art team.
As I saw it, he had not at all came to MIU (which was only a concept
at that point, not a physical place) "because his expert view was that
consciousness *was* the unified filed" but rather to hang out with MMY
and see what was going on. I think his girlfriend (tall, curly red
hair) had got him interested in TM -- though that link is not crystal
clear.
In early 72, at Fuiggi, the idea of MIU was ripe and a lot of
attention was put on the first MIU catalog -- that oversized tan one
with the MIU logo embossed in gold on the front. Along with the on the
development of the SCI course. "Knowledge is Structured in
Consciousness" was the big theme of the day -- some time still prior
to much talk of Vacuum State and Unified Field as I recall.
I do remember, post 72 I believe, Larry began talking alot about
quantum mechanics and its base state (still not referred to as the
Unified Field, as I recall)-- perhaps by the summer of 73 at MIU SB,
and through the fall of MIU's first year in FF. All the talk was in
the context of QM being a good ANALOGY for SCI and consciousness. He
even spoke a lot about how analogies could be quite useful in coming
up with testable hypotheses in other fields. And thus physics he
proposed provided some frameworks for SCI to be examined and tested.
It was all about "Analogy".
I clearly remember a lecture where he said that in his discussions
with M. (and he was getting a lot of face time) that M. kept insisting
that QM was not "like" consciousness, It WAS consciousness. This
brought a lot of laughter from the group -- and a kind of smirk and
shrug from Domash -- indicating this was beyond what was supportable
and as if asking "what are you going to do?" This may have been in
74, or as late as early 1976 -- hard to date each lecture.
It was in 76 timeframe that he talked extensively of the "Vacuum
State" in QM and its parallels to SCI /Consciousness. I don't
rememeber Unfied Field being a term used extensively in those days.
Then over the years, it appeared Larry tried his darndest to find
support of the idea that the Vacuum State was Consciousness -- but I
don't have specific memories of him personally stating this was his
belief. But by then 77-79 + I was less around MMY, Domash or MIU. So
perhaps others can fill in the gaps of their personal observations of
Larry's talks, discussions with him and the scuttlelbut amongs faculty
etc. on the issue. (And by this time Larry had become President of
MIU, so he was less on physics stuff I beleive.)
But in what I observed, he hardly "came to MIU in the first place
because his expert view was that consciousness *was* the unified
field." Thats a rewriting of history IMO.
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