--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" > > <matrixmonitor@> wrote: > > > > > > ---I disagree with this on the basis of my observations of > > > various Gurus. Some probably E'd people (say HWL Poonja) are > > > or have a. been keeping their Sidhis secret yet have them, > > > or b. don't have them. c. a third possibility is that they > > > are not E'd. <snip> > > > > So the best solution to answer your question is for you to fully > > realize Enlightenment, waking, dreaming and sleeping. Then you will > > know beyond any doubt. > > While that would be the most pleasant 'solution,' :-) > IMO it would offer no more conclusive an 'answer' to > the 'question' of whether all enlightened beings display > the siddhis than anything else. His experience of > enlightenment will be his, and unlike anyone else's, > including yours. > > To claim that all enlightened beings have knowledge > of and can perform the siddhis simply shows that the > person claiming that hasn't read very much of the > literature of enlighenment and the biographies of > those who have realized their own enlightenment. Some > enlightened beings were interested in siddhis and thus > developed them; other weren't. Simple as that. It's > really an apples and oranges situation in my opinion > and in my experiice. Siddhis have nothing whatsoever > to do with enlightenment and vice-versa. > Yeah, agreed- the experience of enlightenment for me has been unmistakable, very much like passing through a doorway into another realm, changing my life forever, leading to an entirely different way of learning.
And although I picked up certain abilities over time that are uncommon, I saw them more as abilities picked up along the way, correlaries to a continued refinement of me, vs. something to trot out as proof of anything. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
