On Jul 5, 2006, at 9:53 AM, new.morning wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




On Jul 5, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Michael Murphy wrote:



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@>  

wrote:




http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/05/business/05coalfuel.html


"The coal in the ground in Illinois alone has more energy than all  

the

oil in Saudi Arabia. The technology to turn that coal into fuel for

cars, homes and factories is proven. And at current prices, that

process could be at the vanguard of a big, new industry."




It's interesting to see that this is being taken seriously by the  

commercial sector. It will

increase pollution most likely, but at least it give us some  

options. My guess is that when

push comes to shovel and there is a choice between compromising the  

american life style

and compromising the atmosphere, our current government will choose  

to maintain our

wasteful life style.




What they (the coal industry) will do I suspect is promote research  

which will show that particulate matter released into the atmosphere  

from coal burning actually helps mitigate the Greenhouse Effect.  

Therefore this will not only be a viable interim solution, it will  

help reverse global warming till "cleaner" solutions are in place and  

viable. The new WMD.




Actually, as the article points out, and has been the trend for 20

years, coal is much cleaner than it used to be for traditioanl

pollutants: SO2, CO, ozone, No2, PM10 etc. The article says the

current [scrubbing] technology makes coal burning cleaner than natural

gas -- which if true -- is phenomenal. NG has long been the

quite-clean burning fuel of choice for new plants coming on line. And

is the by far largest generation fuel in areas like California. 


But CO2 (not CO) is not a traditional pollutant and is not eliminated

/ greatly reduced by these modern scubbers. But, again as the article

points out, as has been the trend, carbon sequestration technology is

advancing. There are experimental plants that pump all CO2 into the

ground. So the generation is CO2 neutral. And quite low in traditional

pollutants. 


Some areas, as the article points out cannot pump the CO2 into the

ground, but can pipeline it to industrial areas. The latter needs more

pipeline infrastructure to be truly viable. 


Sequestration of carbon is as or more important than i)

energy-efficiency -- getting same power out of less energy input, and

ii) conservation (consuming less, substituting energy intensive

consumption for products and services with lower input. Both would be

greatly enhanced, and "solved" by the market if fuels were priced

efficiently and not laden with huge subsidies (direct and indirect --

that is, not including all costs incurred on society.

Welfare-energy-consumers are of course resistant to efficient  market

solutions.


Sequestration can be direct, like the coal plant pumping CO2

underground, or indirect, such as reforestation. 95% of CO2 produced

on earth (not the same as that escaping to atmosphere) is 95% or so

from natural sources. But nature has an abundance of carbom "sinks"

which traditionally have kept CO2 in balance. The 5% man-made carbon

had tipped the balance, thus causing a 30% or so increase in

atmospheric carbon. By increasing, or even re-establishing, natural

carbon sinks -- such as forests --  the greenhouse gas problem looming

for future generations could be substantially mitigated. 


If energy were price to reflect its full  costs, and thus sending the

correct price signal in all markets -- hugely important to market

economies -- large scale sequestration projects could be funded with

no increase on regular taxes. Then those who want to drive a lot,

and/or drive  SUVs, can do so to their  hearts content, pay the full

cost of such consumption, send the corrrect price signal for energy,

and provide for more forests (recretion lands) which could keep CO2 in

(or greatly towatds)  balance. 


Drive and create forest recreation lands! Who doesn't love that. 


Sounds like spin to me. I'd expect to see sequestration used to sell the idea and then some backpedalling as the industry moves to cut costs.

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