--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter,
> 
> If the stories on her Website are accurate, her confusion doesn't
> surprise me.  I found her descent into madness chronicled on her
> site completely riveting.

How sad.






   Of course I understand that others may see the
> divine hand at work instead of a mental illness.  Funny to think how
> she would have been treated in this culture with her symptoms.   She
> may have sustained neurological damage early on if this story is 
true
> from her site:
> 
> "A daughter earlier born to Mokhshadasundari died prematurely. With
> that trag­edy in mind Mokhshada [Grandma (Didima) to the devotees]
> took the newborn MA before a Tulsi sap­ling installed in the house in
> the morning and rolled the infant over and over on the ground. The
> ritual was repeated every day for eighteen months. When MA grew up,
> she did it all by herself'- an infant god frolicking in front of her
> other self, symbolised by the Tulsi."
> 
> But with this experience she would be off to a facility for sure:
> 
> "1926
> Thus passed the days at Shahbag.
> She would start a job, say, the offering of the cooked food to the
> deity and would stop midway becoming as still as a stone. This might
> happen during the household work or cooking, regardless of the heat
> from the blazing oven scorching her body. She would lie prostrate 
for
> hours unmindful of the rows of ants biting into her flesh. She would
> walk around at night through bushes and boughs unafraid of snakes or
> reptiles. Yet, her face would glow with a smile, her body with radi­
ance."
> 
> The site is full of this kind of story interpreted through the rosy
> glasses of her divine nature.  Her experiences remind me of the 
three
> people I knew personally at MIU who became afflicted with
> Schizophrenia. (The college age group is particularly vulnerable to
> this disease isn't it?)  One was taken over by "divine rapture" and
> refused to leave his room for days.  Fortunately for him he was 
taken
> for treatment instead of being worshiped.  Under the grip of this
> illness my friends took on an appearance of divine ecstasy or 
extreme
> pain and their eyes gleamed with intensity  It was completely
> unnerving to be in their presence, but with the right mindset and
> belief system I can see how  people could respond differently.
> 
> Would Ma have been better off on some psych drug?  That is a tough 
one
> isn't it?  One friend whose progress I tracked through the years was
> constantly going off his meds because the sensations of the illness
> were so compelling for him.  It is tough to give up divine rapture 
for
> functionality in daily life.  The fact that he was tormented by his
> illness was also clear.  There was no reasonable position that would
> allow him to just stay off the drugs.  What a shitty dilemma life
> handed him and his poor family.  Interpreting Ma's inability to even
> feed herself at times as "divine forgetfulness" is kind of a 
charming
> alternative to seeing her condition clinically.  Or maybe autism was
> at play?  Since I am giving a medical diagnosis on the basis of
> stories, what that hell, I might as well throw that one in also!  
Who
> knows.  Instead of wandering the streets as she might have ended up
> here, she had a rich full life with people catering to her every 
whim.
> This is a fascinating life viewed from any perspective isn't it?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> >
> > When SSRS was about 12 years old MMY brought him to
> > see Anandamayi Ma. SSRS says that she kept on refering
> > to him in the female tense and he didn't know why.  
> > 
> > --- curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Good find.  Did you check out the videos?
> > > http://www.anandamayi.org/mmedia/avi/8d.htm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> > > <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablus108"
> > > <nablus108@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"
> > > <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "nablus108" <nablus108@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  > 
> > > > > > > > > That being said the woman saint that
> > > Maharishi brought with 
> > > > > him 
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > my 
> > > > > > > > > TTC glowed like a light bulb.  A sight I
> > > will never forget 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > have not 
> > > > > > > > > seen since.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Where was that? MMY asked Matananda Mai to
> > > go to Europe with 
> > > > > him 
> > > > > > > once, but she 
> > > > > > > > declined.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If you are referring to Ananda Mayima it was
> > > the other way 
> > > > > around. 
> > > > > > > She 
> > > > > > > did not want to part with Maharishi so she
> > > wanted to come with 
> > > > > him 
> > > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > Switzerland, but seeing the huge following
> > > of her disciples, who 
> > > > > > > could 
> > > > > > > not part with her, he suggested that it was
> > > better she stayed in 
> > > > > > > India.
> > > > > > > I've talked to people who saw them together,
> > > just sitting 
> > > > > quietly on 
> > > > > > > the floor holding hands, it was an amazing
> > > sight. 
> > > > > > > When she left the body in 1982 Maharishi
> > > said; "Now I'm really 
> > > > > > > alone."
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > According to Benjamin Creme, Ananda Mayima
> > > was an Avatar.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Her official biography says it differently: 
> > > MMY asked and she 
> > > > > declined.
> > > > >  There are dozens of biograpies on her, which
> > > one do you reffer to ? 
> > > > > I heard this from a fellow probably still on
> > > Purusha, he was there.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It does not make sense that Maharishi would
> > > invite an indian saint 
> > > > > to Europe knowing that hundreds of her disciples
> > > automatically would 
> > > > > follow. Some of these disciples refused to leave
> > > her and travelled 
> > > > > along with her all over India. She was very well
> > > known in India, 
> > > > > having thousands of disciples and started
> > > ashrams all over the 
> > > > > country. If you happen to go to Vrindavan you
> > > could drop by her 
> > > > > ashram there, very strong athmosphere though in
> > > need of renovation.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > There's a website that is allegedly her "fficial"
> > > website. Has the
> > > timeline of her life. It 
> > > > mentions MMY.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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