I enjoyed the experience of flying for the ten years I did it, and TM for 15 years. Once I shifted my view of its value, I never desired the experience again. I think the experience's value is not as "self-evident" as some claim. Maybe the belief system has to support it. Otherwise it just seems odd, and not an experience I would seek out these days. As far as it benefit, that I no longer buy. I think it is sort of a mini epileptic fit. Not too dangerous probably, but not the greatest experience ever. I don't see people who have kept it up as special in any way I can detect. By now it really should have produced more of the claimed benefits in people practicing so long. In the old days we would joke that without TM a person might be even worse! That claim is getting hollower and hollower each decade.
As far as transcending goes, I think that experience is also very overrated as a valuable experience. Relaxation seems necessary in my life in much smaller doses now that I don't do a program. The biggest wellbeing booster for me is exercise. That experience seems to give me all the mental clarity I was seeking with TM with the added benefit of giving me much more energy. All that eyes closed time of the program seems to sap people's energy despite the claims. I don't hang out with anyone who needs a nap in the afternoon. (anyone with kids excluded!) It is just something that people get used to I think. It took me a few days to get over the need for program, then I just never considered the need for more rest after sleeping, or in the afternoon. There are too many activities that give me joy and help me grow. I have become the busy businessman of the checking notes and wouldn't have it any other way! I always knew that most people drop TM after practicing it. At the DC center we got a big wake-up call when we tried to contact the 10,000 people who had been initiated at the center. I don't remember the numbers but it shocked us at the time. How could so many people drop the practice if transcending was all that? Posting on this group has made me wonder how many people keep up with the sidhi program. Even that level of interaction doesn't seem to be self-evidently positive enough to keep people doing it. So we are all left with our personal choices. People on this group are pretty entertaining. Most of the people I seem to get along with best have moved on from TM. The TM link is just a common bond so we can goof on the movement a little and remember how into we were. For the people who have continued to enjoy the practice, please don't take my words of my experience as insulting to your own. I know how limited my view of what you may need in your life is. If you enjoy flying, I'm glad you found something in this world to enjoy. I hope you can see beyond the fact that I have left it behind. TM was an amazing ride, and although in a perfect world, I might not want to have hung with it so long, I value my experiences from my past. I am not a spiritual person so my analysis has no bearing on people who continue on a path of self or God realization. That is a goal that I understand and respect, but I know it is not for me. Thanks for asking a question that helped me reflect on this. I would like to hear your experiences if you wouldn't mind sharing them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One thing I noticed that was interesting about this thread on yogic > flying was that apart from Dave - correct me if I am wrong, as I > didn't read all - but all of the anti-TM'rs (apart from Vaj who hasn't > learned TM or yogic flying) said they had good experiences of yogic > flying and that the whole 'levitation' part was unimportnant. > > Interesting phenomena: The first time I've seen a thread here where > all the yogic flyers (wether 'for' or 'against' TMO) agree that it was > a good thing and that they would not have missed the chance to learn > it. > > Correct me if I am wrong please. > > OffWorld > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/