Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's judgement--and many firm believers *may not even believe it if they hear it from one of the women who was subjected to the spiritual incest*--it's pretty damning when someone as credible as Rick talks directly, firsthand and shares the story. This is way beyond rumor, he's talked to the women. And of course we need to respect their right to heal, process and move in and not be trapped in endless questions and attacks from hundreds or thousands of questioners. So it's also important to protect those who shared this. I think you are mistaking the need to protect the abused for something unclear or contrived.

It became clearer to me why this was important with the Swami Rama sex scandals where he really damaged a lot of women and few would come out and tell their stories. Those that did were subjected to a living hell. And that was a much smaller movement.

On Aug 4, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Paul Mason wrote:

Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure 

of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs stories sell 

well, but in reality there are more serious temptations for a 

spiritual leader and in order to determine whether or not such people 

exploit their positions, it is wise to keep a close eye on their 

behaviour.


I am not at all opposed to people questioning the 'saintliness' of 

MMY, but I am uncomfortable that FFL no longer merely raises about 

his sexuality but presents the rumours as facts. 


Legally speaking, being the conduit of a rumour is one thing, but 

presenting it as fact is really quite another.


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