--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "> Enjoying pain implies empathy, just inverted."
> > > > > 
> > > > > No.  That is not how they are processing it according to 
> this 
> > > > > author. A sadist may operate the way you describe, from 
> empathy.
> > > > > But the result is that sociopaths experience pleasure in 
> > > tormenting
> > > > > others as if it is a game and they are winning. Are you 
> arguing 
> > > > > points from a book you haven't read?
> > > > 
> > > > I believe he was commenting on what *you* said,
> > > > actually: "Wherever they are they take delight
> > > > in tormenting people."  You did read the book,
> > > > right?
> > > > 
> > > > Also Sal's remark (although she hasn't read the
> > > > book):
> > > > 
> > > > "Right, most just live for the thrill of
> > > > tormenting others, in either petty or much
> > > > larger ways, whatever they can get away with."
> > > > 
> > > > Neither of these characterizations shows up in
> > > > any of the material I've read about sociopathy.
> > > > 
> > > > To the extent that sociopaths "torment" people,
> > > > they do it as a way of getting something they
> > > > want from them; they don't do it just for the
> > > > fun of it.  The "delight" is in getting what they
> > > > wanted, not in seeing the other person in pain.
> > > > That was Lawson's point, I think.
> > > 
> > > You seem to know the field well.
> > 
> > I've done quite a bit of reading in psychology, yes.
> 
> I was thinking more of the experiential level of knowing.

I thought perhaps you were.

Probably be a good idea for *you* to do some reading
in psychology.






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