I noticed that the course pictures George posted highlighted the
buildings more than the people....

JohnY



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure Doug. As a start, loose the crowns and robes (it
> >didn't
> > work the first time, historically), stop suing or trying to
> >recertify
> > the teachers. Start teaching TM for an honest price.... Stop hiding
> > all the finances. Stop trying to accumulate property by any means.
> >The
> > TMO has lost the good will of so many and become
> >untrustworthy....
> >
> > JohnY
> 
> Yes, we would all be stunned by surprize if they started posting on 
> websites their audited budgets, income statements, balance sheets 
> and cashflows.  MUM, MSAE, Global Country.  They won't.  They 
> can't.  
> 
> That would be one of those decisions that would have to come from 
> the top.  Transparency, is not how you run an Indian family 
> business?  'don't tell me how to run my business'.
> 
> Of course, these things if they were started would be helpful in 
> time and yet nothing will happen unless they are done.  There has 
> been a lot of cashflow over the damn unaccounted for that eveyone 
> has seen go by.  Where is it throwing good money after bad if they 
> can't seem to tell where it goes?
> 
> Jai Guru Dev, 
> 
> -Doug in FF
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
> <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not sure Doug. As a start, loose the crowns and robes (it 
> didn't
> > work the first time, historically), stop suing or trying to re-
> > certify
> > the teachers. Start teaching TM for an honest price.... Stop hiding
> > all the finances. Stop trying to accumulate property by any means. 
> > The
> > TMO has lost the good will of so many and become untrustworthy....
> > 
> > JohnY
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, these things in time would be helpful and nothing will happen 
> > unless they are done.  Transparency keeps coming up at the 
> problem.  
> > The first thing the accreditation team recently coached the 
> > Maharishi School for the Age of Enlightenment to do was to audit 
> all 
> > parts of the school and report the audit to everyone.  When hell 
> > freezes over is likely what the administrators and MMY think of 
> > course.
> > 
> > The great quote recently is MMY to one of Mother Olsen's 
> daughter's 
> > who was advising that the fees for  basic meditation should be 
> > reduced,  MMY's response accurately was, "Don't tell me how to run 
> > my business"  Last contact and lost contact in that.
> > 
> > As Hagelin said succinctly in a public meeting with TSR here, we 
> got 
> > the best movement and the best guidelines we got now.  Nothing is 
> > going to change evidently until after MMY.  Wait until then for 
> the 
> > best hope in all of this.
> > 
> > Does that mean that MMY can't die fast enough to git out of the 
> > way?  It is a sad deal for something that was so hopeful.
> > 
> > Jai Guru Dev,
> > 
> > -Doug in FF
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <jyouells@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
> > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Reconciling the past,
> > > > 
> > > > >how likely is it that
> > > > > they'd
> > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be 
> that 
> > many
> > > > > willing
> > > > > > > to go.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sal
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > JohnY writes,
> > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's 
> > and 
> > > > the
> > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 
> 27,000
> > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Doug writing:
> > > > Yes, round numbers a million TM meditators taught in the US,  
> > with 
> > > > some tens of thousands of TM teachers taught, some tens of 
> > thousands 
> > > > people taught the TM0-sidhis; and a few hundreds show up when 
> > > > called. 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Reconciling the numbers, what would the TMOrg need do, to 
> > reconcile 
> > > > with its people?  It had got pretty ugly in recent years, what 
> > could 
> > > > the elements of a lasting peace and reconciliation for the 
> TMorg 
> > be 
> > > > with its meditators? 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Jai Guru Dev,
> > > > -Doug in FF
> > > > 
> > >   I'm not sure Doug. As a start, loose the crowns and robes (it 
> > didn't
> > > work the first time, historically), stop suing or trying to 
> > recertify
> > > the teachers. Start teaching TM for an honest price.... Stop 
> hiding
> > > all the finances. Stop trying to accumulate property by any 
> means. 
> > The
> > > TMO  has lost the good will of so many and become 
> > untrustworthy.... 
> > > 
> > > JohnY
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" 
> <jyouells@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" 
> > <babajii_99@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" 
> > <jyouells@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
> > > > <salsunshine@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff.  
> And 
> > > > seeing 
> > > > > > as how 
> > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely 
> is 
> > it 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > they'd 
> > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be 
> > that 
> > > > many 
> > > > > > willing 
> > > > > > > > to go.)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sal
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? 
> > Why 
> > > > even
> > > > > > > bother to ask? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > JohnY 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer;
> > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know...
> > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always 
> > superior to 
> > > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer...
> > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in 
> India?
> > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba?
> > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome?
> > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask...
> > > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such 
> controlling;
> > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate;
> > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question:
> > > > > > Very Sad!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both 
> Maharishi's 
> > and 
> > > > the
> > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 
> > 27,000
> > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually 
> > more 
> > > > than I
> > > > > expected....
> > > > > 
> > > > > JohnY
> > > > >
> ,..;
>







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