--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " Neiheryou nor she apparently ever considered the fact (now proveable > beyond doubt by > > Fred's latest reesearch) that TM-induced "pure consciousness" is not > merely an altered > > state of consciousness. But oh well. Keep your anti-stuff going if > it makes you happy." > > So what term would you prefer to represent our own point of view on > these states? I didn't know that there was any universal scientific > consensus on the terms yet. I think in this area of very new science > there is a lot of room for differences of opinions on what these > states mean or what we should call them. Margret was viewing it from > her clinical experiences with ex TMers. That was her opinion. > > I am comfortable referring to them as trance states because I think > they are hypnotically induced. That is my conclusion from my own > experience with TM and hypnosis training in the style of Milton > Erickson whose expertise I respected. My position is no more > characterized as "anti stuff" then your point of view is. We are both > doing the best we can to interpret our experiences honestly, right? > It is my best understanding of the experience. I respect that this > is not how you view it. >
Wellll... Short answer: there's no consistent physiological changes found in hypnotic subjects while there is with TMers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/