> "Mike Hutchinson" wrote: > ColdBlueIce, you come accross as so arrogant
Namaste Sir Mike Ji I must politely take excetion with your comment regarding,- "you come accross as so arrogant". Simply because Vaj Ji posted spurious claims regarding a "Goddess" that simply can't be found. And i simply inquired where his information could be found. And then Vaj Ji claims that this *Unfound Goddess* is some how involved in a cult that Adi Shankara founded, and is allegdly practised in Adi Shankar's mutts. And, then Vaj Ji confused Buddhist / "tantra" contemplation practises of staring at "yantras" / mandalas with the Bhakti of Devi Tripurasundari at Kanchi Mutt. So i politely informed VajJi of the facts... The two- Sri Chakra and "sri yantra" are not inter-related as in the way Vaj Ji has suggested. Then i was kind enough to politely inform Vaj ji where he may find a living disciple (108 Swami Vishva HiteshJi Maharaj) of Sri Swami BrahmanandJi Sarasawti (refered here at ffl as "Guru Dev). > I don't think you would > be privy to any inner teachings, Most respectfully Sir Mike, there are no "inner teachings" anywhere. So i don't think the 3 of us.., you & me and Vaj Ji would be "privy" to them.., as they simply don't exist. i am guessing here but the *Mistaken Subject* VajJi is *attempting* to write of is(i think)- *Guru Kripa*(or grace of the GuruJi). Often times called "inner teachings" by us confused westerners. Perhaps is was some of the first 19th century westerners that visited Ramakrishna Paramahan's ashram that recieved his "blessing"/Kripa that coined the term "inner teachings". Fro example Annie Beasant and her Theosphy "teaching". Or, maybe it was some westerners trying to make $$$.$$ off an non- existant concept. The Guru Kripa is not an "inner teaching". The process of Devotion/Bhakti is started by the *personal* Kripa/grace of a true GuruJi(as Ramakrishna Paramahans and Sri BrahmanandJi was). The practise of Bhakti is *the same everywhere in India* the only difference is the chosen from of- "Ishta Devata" or Sakar Brahma or Divien Personal Form of God. The Bhakti is- Puja(Arti) and Homage(prayer) and RoopDhyana (Heartfelt loving-rememberance of Divine Personal Form of God as i said before. For Sri Adi Shankar it was Govinda(Sri Krishna) that is whay He composed 'Bhajo Govindam' (if you don't believe me the *google* it). In the Kanchi mutt it is Devi Tripurasundari. For Sri Ramakrishna Paramahans it was Devi Kali. For Sri Swami BrahmanandJi Saraswati its was- ??.. i asked and i was told it was a devotional secret. But from other eyewitness accounts that attended His satsangs it was said-, "He was once sighted silently mouthing "Om Namah Shiviya" that according to Paul Mason (PremanandJi) who has intvestigated the matter. Now "Om Namah Shiviya" is as you are no doubt aware related to worship to God Shiva. Now if Vaj Ji(or you) wants to find a true GuruJi and recieve His grace/Kripa who btw is said to have Sri BrahmanandJi's praksha(Light) then i may politely suggest finding 108 Swami Vishva HiteshJi Maharaj in Corona, New York. All the Best Pranams Stephen Perino [EMAIL PROTECTED] > the space where they would go is > already filled with ego it would appear > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- rmy108 <rmy108@> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coldbluiceman > > > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Vaj wrote: > > > > > > coldbluiceman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> Vaj wrote: > > > > > >> Samaya Sri Vidya does not require any > > > > > >> externally obvious signs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Vaj Ji, > > > > > > Please tell me what exactly are > > > > > > the "signs of Sri Vidya"? > > > > > > > > > > External ritual. > > > > > > > > Namaste Vaj ji > > > > > > > > Please tell me of this external ritual? > > > > For example puja? > > > > > > > > > Samaya practice is internal > > > > >(i.e. you might not necessarily see such > > > > > a practitioner doing anything obvious > > > externally). > > > > > > > > Please tell me is this "samaya" the same > > > "tm-samya"? > > > > > > > > > >> Not > > > > > >> finding a secret practice on a web site > > > > > >> is no indication that it is > > > > > >> not practiced, > > > > > >> nor should we be surprised it is not > > > practiced > > > > > >> everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe, but you insisted "Sri Vidya" > > > > > > was practised by Adi Shankara > > > > > > and at His established mutts. > > > > > > > > > > You might want to look at > > > > > what I did originally say: > > > > > > > > Ok. > > > > > > > > > > "Sri Rajareshsvari is a form of > > > > > the Goddess worshipped in Sri Vidya > > > > > and popular in the cult of the Shankaracharyas. > > > > > A very old pagan and > > > > > tantric Goddess. " > > > > > > > > i must politely take exception with your > > > statement. > > > > As when i *google* your "Rajareshsvari" name i > > > come with nothing!! > > > > > > > > However if i *google* the name i told you- > > > "Tripurasundari" i come > > > > with 16,000 sites related to Devi Tripurasundari > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=tripurasundari > > > > Results 1 - 10 of about 16,000 for tripurasundari. > > > (0.58 seconds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> It has a long association with these > > > traditions, > > > > > >> esp. the > > > > > >> southern seat. > > > > > > > > > > > > I gave you the link to the "southern seat" > > > here it is again. > > > > > > Why not email the "southern seat" directly and > > > ask them if the > > > > > > Shankaracharya there at Kanchi worships a "sri > > > yantra'?? > > > > > > 5). Kanchi mutt- here is the link go see if > > > this mutt engages in > > > > > > worship of Sri Yantra > > > > > > > > > http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html > > > > > > > > > > I'm guessing what's confusing you is that > > > > > they refer to it as a Sri > > > > > Chakra. > > > > > FYI this is synonymous with "Sri Yantra". > > > > > > > > No Sir. As i pointed out to you before.., when Adi > > > Shankara > > > > presented gifts to Devi Tripurasundari at the > > > temple in Kanchi. He > > > > gave Her earrings as gifts the earrings were > > > called "Sri Chakra". > > > > Please check the wedsite i provided for the > > > Southern Seat. > > > > http://www.kamakoti.org/peeth/aboutpeetham.html > > > > > > > > The worship(or devotion/bhakti) of Sri Devi > > > Tripurasundari is > > > > related to Sri Chakra, and practrised in the > > > Kanchi mutt. The > > > > devotion/bahkti done to Sri Tripurasundari > > > involves puja(or Arti) > > > > and homage(or prayer) and RoopDhyana(or > > > rememberance of Her divine > > > > form) and does not involve "secret rituals". > > > > > > > > The "sri yantra" are mandalas painted on concrete > > > or stone or paper > > > > or made with sand-(as in the Tibetan Buddhist > > > practice of sand > > > > mandalas) and involve a mental concentration on a > > > "yantra". > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you might > > > > > want to look at the description of what > > > > > Adi Shankara carved into the > > > > > rock there (at the Sharada temple site) > > > > > > > > Where? > > > > > > > > > and what Vidyaranya installed > > > > > at numerous other places. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> BTW, just a casual glance at itineraries > > > > > >> shows participation in Sri Vidya rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please- *Specifically Identify from those > > > "itineraries" which > > > > > > are "sri yanta rituals"? > > > > > > I want to know what you are calling "sri > > > yantra rituals". > > > > > > > > > > > >> I think you're just playing games. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you are playing games, and attempting > > > to get me stare at > > > > > > *VERY Artistic Mandalas* that my lovely wife > > > > > > paints on concrete for > > > > > > celebrations at our local "Hindu" temple. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are those mandalas my wife paints > > > > > > part of some "sri yantra ritual"? > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you should ask her? > > > > > > > > Well on occassion i assist her, as some are very > > > large. > > > > However when the- frequent So. Indian > > > visitors(some are pundits > > > from > > > > the Sri Meenakshi) come to our temple they view > > > her painted > > > > mandalas. While they comment on the significance > > > of her manadals, > > > > they never ascribe any sort of worship to them! > > > > > > > > > >> Just what FFL needed--another game player. > > > > > >> Excuse me if you are > > > > > >> actually ignorant in this area, > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir Vaj Ji, > > > > > > I am not ignorant. > > > > > > I just don't by into your whole-, "tantric / > > > shankaracharya / > > > sri > > > > > > yantra secret rituals" thing. > > > > > > I have been to 2 Shankaracharyas(1 north & 1 > > > south) and 2 living > > > > > > disciples of Sri BrahmanandJi Maharaj and 1 > > > Jagadguru Acharya > > > (my > > > > > > spiritual master). > > > > > > And, in 20 years i never heard of any secret > > > teaching of "sri > > > > > > yantra"!!..i assure you I am not ignorant in > > > these "areas". > > > > > > > > > > LOL, what makes you think you'd > > > > > hear of a secret teaching? > > > > > > > > LOL, What makes you think they are "secret > > > teachings"?.. i can > > > > find "sri yantra" worship on the internet right > > > now!! > > > > > > > > > Even SBS > > > > > sent ripe students elsewhere for > > > > > inner instruction in Sri Vidya. > > > > > > > > Where did you find this information? > > > > > > > > I have spoken to 3 living disciples of Sri > > > Brahmanandji-("SBS") and > > > > none of them said anything like what you claim. > > > > In fact if your are on the east coast- New York, > > > New York you can > > > > > === message truncated === > > And when you become aware that you are thinking > > thoughts, come back very easily, very gently to the mantra.... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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