--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 13, 2006, at 1:17 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > 
> > >> Judy, has it ever occurred to you that adults don't tell other
> > >> adults
> > >> what they'd "like you to do"?  That it's usually up to the 
> > >> person to
> > >> decide for him/herself what is best?  I guess not.
> > >
> > > Some people are only comfortable in a situation in
> > > which they are constantly told what to do and what
> > > not to do. After thirty years or so of this, they
> > > aspire not to enlightenment but to telling other
> > > people what to do and what not to do.  :-)
> > 
> > Exactly.  Condescension becomes a way of life, and if you can't 
> > beat em, join em, I guess.
> > 
> > It's very doubtful Judy would put up with the manipulation in 
> > the TMO were it to really occur with anyone else, with any 
> > frequency at all.  She'd simply find a new doctor, dentist or 
> > whatever.  But it's impossible to admit she's been taken in all 
> > these years.
> 
> Bingo.
> 
> I really do think that that's the issue. She (and
> many others) have a fairly fixed sense of self.
> When it's challenged, and someone sees them differ-
> ently, they feel the need to "defend" that imaginary
> fixed self. And one of the things that a fixed self
> *hates* to do is admit that it may have been stupid.  :-)
> 
> Those of us who are a little more fluid, and who are
> used to laughing at ourselves (our selves, however
> temporary and imaginary they may be) are often more
> able to kick back and say, "Yup...I sure got taken
> to the cleaners on that one."

You do realize, Barry, don't you, that none of what
you've been saying has anything at all to do with
the point I made, right?  Neither does what Sal has
been saying, for that matter.  You're having 
yourselves a fun little conversation batting around
a bunch of straw men in a complete vacuum.






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