--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"
> > > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for this post, Tom. There were too many posts
> > > > > > implying Gangaji was some sort of fraud. She is one
> > > > > > powerful woman. Some people repond to an advaitic
> > > > > > teacher and others just get confused.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't know if you were directing that comment at me, but I 
> did 
> > > not
> > > > > imply that Gangaji is a fraud. I simply posted my reaction to 
> her.
> > > > > And, being more toward the Tantric end of the spectrum, I 
> regard
> > > > > advaitic dismissal of the relative as a tedious exercise in 
> > > denial. If
> > > > > the relative is such worthless illusory crap, then why not 
> just 
> > > throw
> > > > > the worthless illusory human body in front of an illusory 
> freight 
> > > train?
> > > > 
> > > > Because its an illusory act of compassion to avoid having an 
> > > illusory
> > > > someone having to clean up all the illusory blood and gore.
> > > 
> > > "Dismissal of the relative" isn't Advaitic anyway.
> > 
> > Yes. Its sort of like concluding that people who realize that films
> > are an illusion, are people who don't like films.
> 
> But the point MMY makes--and I've heard other
> teachers make it, so it's not just him--is not
> that the relative is an illusion; rather, the
> illusion is that the relative isn't Brahman.
> 
> Your analogy works nicely either way, though.

The words I often heard hims say is -- relative = maya: paraphrasing
-- maya is that which is not. Its not that maya is an illusion, its
not what it appears.

Snake is really a rope.

And/or -- parallel to greeks -- Hericlitus? -- its ever changing. It
has no permanence. Its here today, gone tomorrow. How can one give
that the status of "real".









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