Jim, I sure never got a moodmaker vibe from you on this group! You are just folks to me my brother.
I have been fascinated with yours and other people's experiences of big permanant shifts in your state of consciousness. I can't think of how hypnosis theory would add insight to this. I believe that the mind is capable of shifting into radically different styles of functioning and we are left to our own to figure out what it means. I would like to pursue this conversation, adding my own subjective experiences of my self, with a member of the grape family represented in both of our glasses! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > <snip> As far as the states reached in hypnotic techniques, I found > them > > identical to what I had experienced in TM in my own experience. But > I > > know it can be argued that I was just used to transcending. In my > > small group of therapists, who were in the hypnosis training with me, > > I was able to test if other people would have the type of experiences > > that I had through TM and sidhis through hypnosis. They would report > > very similar states of mind. > <snip> > > Hi Curtis, an interesting discussion, to be sure. From a subjective > standpoint I can say I experience 'higher states' of consciousness or > just plain other states of consciousness very differently now than I > used to. > > Let me preface this by saying I have never been prone to mood-making. > In fact it kinda grosses me out and hurts when I see it, only because > my heart hurts for those doing it, since it is fake, and I want them > to genuinely feel what they are faking....very much an Ewwww/Owww type > of experience. > > Anyway, when I would have a higher states experience in the past, it > would be like the shift of a tectonic plate within; one moment > I'm...here, and the next I'm...there, with no clarity around how I got > to 'there' from 'here'. So it could've been I was hypnotized or > externally influenced somehow. And 'I' felt different; not quite > myself. > > My experience now, with whatever I am moving from or to, is that the > experience is wholly mine and I can review the transition in time, so > that wherever I might go, be it transcending, asleep, champagne high, > emotional envelopment, etc. there is no longer the "wha' > happened?!?!?" accompaniment; I am always where I am. > > This is a different experience I think that the trance state you are > describing, because there is no loss of me at any time. While my > subjective experience may change and possibly drastically, I am always > tracking, big or small, high or low, light or dark, its always just me. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
