--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" jyouells@
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > > > curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I think Vaj's point was actually nicer than the Vedic view of
> > > > > Westerners as I understand it.  We are not even untouchables
> > who are
> > > > > in the caste system and can trace their Shaka or Ghotra back
> > to the
> > > > > original Rishis.  We are what MMY referred to in India as the
> > > > > "mix-ups" because we have no clear lineage, and would require
> > more
> > > > > purification because of our low birth.  Vaj's point that such
> > low
> > > > > lifes can be used at will is not much of a jump.  In the Vedic
> > > system
> > > > > the "unsee-ables", below untouchables, have to ring a bell so
> > people
> > > > > can avert their eyes as they walked around.  We are below that
> > > status
> > > > > in the Vedic system.  We are out-castes, the lowest humans in
> > the
> > > > > Vedic system.
> > > > >
> > > > This all has nothing whatsoever to do with Vedic knowledge. The
> > Vedas
> > > > are the oral record of the Seers' cognitions of the vibratory
> > > > universe. No more and no less. All of these misintepretations
> > have as
> > > > much to do with the Veda as do Catholic priests molesting
> > children
> > > > have to do with the life of Christ. It is all poisonous
> > > > misintepritation based on waking state ignorance.
> > >
> > > That may be true in the pure sense, but I thought we were talking
> > about
> > > the willingness of Maharishi and the TMO to tap  westerners for
> > money.
> > > Cultural attitudes linger in the subconscious ....
> > >
> > > JohnY
> > >
> > Hi, I missed that original part of the thread. In any case I really
> > can't see full grown adults as victims, nor Maharishi's attitudes
> > towards those he deals with as condescending. It doesn't feel
> > accurate to me.
> 
> Not victims, but dealt with dishonestly. You don't think that taking
> money and not using it for it's stated purpose is both dishonest and
> condescending? It's not good to use someone's ignorance against them.
> 

Which money specifically?

> 
> >
> > Regarding the TMO tapping westerners for money, who knows? I
> > gave 'em fifty bucks to help bring over the pundits, which I
> > consider money well spent (perhaps it paid for 30 minutes of bag-
> > piping?!...), though it has been about ten years since I last
> > donated anything.
> >
> 
> 
> Minimizing the reality doesn't change it. Without the millions (and
> millions)  from the west Maharishi would still be in a basement in Utter
> Kashi.

Which is why he came out here.




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