--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <shempmcgurk@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've tried my hardest to stay out of these 100s of postings > > between > > > > > Judy, Spare Egg, and MDixon on Kerry. > > > > > > > > ROTFL!! > > > > > > > > > The last paragraph below by Judy is why I try and stay out: > > Judy is > > > > > quite possibly insane. You see, according to Judy, > > > > > Kerry "acknowledged" that he and others he fought beside > > committed > > > > > war crimes but his saying that on national TV -- twice! -- > > isn't > > > > > the same as "accusing" those he fought beside. > > > > > > > > Well, of course it isn't; the two words are most > > > > definitely not synonymous. > > > > > > More to the point, Kerry was repeating what specific individuals > > had said about > > > THEMSELVES. That isn't an acknowledgement in the generic sense, but > > fact-reporting: > > > > > > "these people said that they had done this." > > > > We're talking about TV interviews here, not his > > Senate testimony. > > But unless he specifically identified some new source, > all of his info likely came from the Winter Soldiers meeting.
It's not as if the war crimes were a big secret until the Winter Soldier meeting; the guys who were over there knew what was going on. >From the Dick Cavett Show (Shemp posted this and the next quote earlier): MR. KERRY: "Well, I have often talked about this subject. I personally didn't see personal atrocities in the sense that I saw somebody cut a head off or something like that. However, I did take part in free fire zones and I did take part in harassment interdiction fire. I did take part in search-and-destroy missions in which the houses of noncombatants were burned to the ground. And all of these, I find out later on, these acts are contrary to the Hague and Geneva Conventions and to the laws of warfare. So in that sense, anybody who took part in those, if you carry out the applications of the Nuremberg principles, is in fact guilty." And from Meet the Press: MR. KERRY (Vietnam Veterans Against the War): "There are all kinds of atrocities and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free-fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50-caliber machine guns which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search-and-destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare. All of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free-fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
