On Nov 29, 2006, at 12:55 AM, pranamoocher wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" sparaig@ wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > And, no, of course that's not what the fourth is. The fourth > > > > is not taught in TM or the TM siddhi program, nor have they > > > > identified it correctly in research that is published. Of > > > > course they want you to believe they have. > > > > > > Guffaw. TM researchers have never mentioned 'the fourth > > > pranayama" in any research or discussion that I have heard. > > > > Nor is it taught, at least not that I've ever heard. > > > > Of course, I notice you neatly snipt the original Yoga Sutra > > > context where the term "fourth" occurs in the context of pranayama > > and don't address my > > > points save to say "that's not it." > > > > > > Hard to say what "it" is when you won't even keep the original YS > > sutra 2;50-51 in the > > > thread. Is it, well, because you can't argue my point? > > > > Vaj has dug himself a big hole here in his never- > > ending attempts to appear knowledgeable and spiritually > > superior. This particular attempt has highlighted his > > limitations and pretensions in that regard especially > > clearly. > > > > Is he smart enough to stop digging? We'll see. > The problem I have seen with YF Exhibitions and the public > perception of this is simply that the same physically built people > are always chosen: skinny or lean, flexible enough to sit in full > lotus and hit the mats again and again. Heavier and inflexible > hoppers are never shown simply because they can't physically "lift > off" to the same heights and with the same finesse their lighter > counterparts can. Tme and again, from Sidhis courses to WPA's, to > group flying sessions, it's always the lighter flexible people who > move the most. From what I've seen over the years, the heavier > inflexible people can seriously injure themselves by "hopping" with > the same effort as their physically superior counterparts do, > flopping their half lotus or trailing legs up and then crashing > down. I'm not doubting the inner experience of sidhas, but it is > apparent that weight, flexibility and body dynamics factor the most > in "flying" appearances. Anyone seen different?
No. In fact many people were using various devices--I had one called a "happy landings" cushion--to aid in my but landing and to prevent "bottoming out". I'd bet yogic flying supports quite few Chiropractors.
